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down the line  — if not tomorrow  —   full-fledged global crisis. You have to   of financial regulation on its head:
                we’re going to wake up one morning and   ask: Would we be better off without   Normally we should spend the most
                ATMs won’t be spitting out dollars, and   the Fed or with it? We’re better off   time thinking about predicting and try-
                the markets will have disappeared.  It   with it. But the Fed has to draw some   ing to avert financial crises. The regu-
                shouldn’t be a surprise as to why we   lines somewhere about how much it gets   lators ought to be creating buffers for
                got to this point. Technology can create   integrated into the debate in the day-to-  financial institutions to operate within
                great quality of life, and it can also be   day transition of money and movement   so  they  don’t  end  up  being  in  a  crisis.
                used to put the lights out.       of the economy.                   But the way Congress has structured
                                                                                    the regulatory system, these days the
                The U.S. government is “always ill-  You say we need to find the right   regulators  spend the  most  time micro-
                prepared” for a financial crisis, you   type of government regulation, not   managing institutions and the least time
                say. What about all the economic and   eliminate regulation. Please explain   preparing for the next financial crisis.
                financial problems that hit us in 2020?  “the right type.”            I’m not sure [could have done anything
                In the history of the United States, no   We need regulation because anytime   to avoid dislocation in 2020], because
                regulator has ever predicted and                                          it was COVID-related. But every
                prepared for a financial crisis. Of   We can expect that at               time we have a financial crisis, it’s
                the last 10 financial crises since                                        like the first time, and [usually]
                1819, the government, and par- some point down the line …                 there’s nothing in place to deal
                ticularly the Federal Reserve, was                                        with it. The lucky part about 2020
                most prepared for the 2020 crisis  we’re going to wake up one             is that it followed 2008 so quickly,
                because they rolled out everything   morning and ATMs won’t               and many of the people and pro-
                they did in 2008 to provide liquid-                                       cesses were still there. So it didn’t
                ity and pump cash into the system.   be spitting out dollars,             hit in the same way it would have
                  The problem is that you can’t                                           if 20 years had passed.
                keep  pumping  cash  into  the   and the markets will have
                system. You can’t keep putting                                            Every financial crisis since 1819
                assets on the Fed’s balance sheet       disappeared.                      has been the result of “a collision
                without having long-term conse-                                           of six different elements,” you
                quences. And that’s what we’re going to   somebody is handling somebody else’s   write. What are the salient ones?
                have to deal with next.           money, somebody had better be watch-  Government policies that are left unat-
                                                  ing. [Also] regulation has to be smart. If   tended. Another is market fermentation:
                You argue that since the start of the   not, it’s going to be counterproductive in   We tend to make laws and regulations in
                regulatory era, “ever-larger financial   the marketplace. The way we focus on   the financial area and leave them alone
                panics” have occurred. Shouldn’t there   regulation today isn’t smart. We’re not   until we have a crisis. A rule or require-
                have been fewer?                  regulating all the right institutions in the   ment today has to be judged against the
                The government has facilitated, caused   right way at the right time.    markets of tomorrow. If it’s no longer
                or encouraged inadvertently much of   There’s no reason why regulation   relevant or working properly, it’s going
                the private sector’s abuses — like corpo-  can’t be on a real-time basis. The system   to cause distortions in the marketplace. 
                rate fraud and unethical practices — that   in use is backward-looking [after the
                are [blamed for financial crises]. In 1913,   fact]. There’s no reason why institu-  Do you see a stock market bubble?
                when the Federal Reserve was created,   tions can’t report their numbers in an   That’s always been a precursor to
                [President Woodrow Wilson] and politi-  automated  way  to  financial  regulators   financial crises, you write.
                cians were all saying that the Fed would   by using artificial intelligence to run   We’re creating an enormous bubble in
                end financial crises in America — only to   algorithms that analyze the institutions   residential real estate and in the stock
                have the Fed become part of the causa-  daily and know where they’re going   market. It’s a dynamic that will end
                tion of the Great Depression of 1929.  before they get there.       up exploding. We’re building toward
                  That was followed by the [S&L] and                                assets losing value and credit evaporat-
                banking crisis of the 1980s — only to be   Should being prepared for financial crises   ing. But it’s always hard to know what
                followed by the subprime lending crisis   be the main job of its regulatory system?  the one thing is that will kick over the
                that erupted in 2008, which became a   This country has turned the pyramid   can of confidence.



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