Gary Shilling: 30% Stock Drop 'Easily' Possible

News October 25, 2024 at 02:18 PM
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  • The S&P 500 would have to drop over 50% to align with a key long-term valuation average, he noted.
  • The economist sees a significant probability for a recession.
  • Office vacancies also pose a big threat to the U.S. economy, according to Shilling.
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The U.S. stock market remains pricey, narrowly concentrated and not as fit as it may appear, economist and investment advisor A. Gary Shilling suggested on a webcast Thursday. He said that equities easily could be in for a 30% drop.

Such a fall could come as a "big shock" to many market watchers, he warned, noting that equities have put in a very strong performance.

"I think a lot of it has been driven by speculation, cryptocurrencies, et cetera … It's not a broad spectrum," Shilling said, citing a "big divergence" between the "Magnificent Seven" mega-cap tech stocks and the remaining S&P 500.

"In other words, you've had a heavy concentration in a relatively few stocks that tend to be very, very speculative," he said. "And it is not a very healthy kind of stock market in my view, at least."

Stocks are also expensive, Shilling said. The cyclically adjusted price-to-earnings ratio, which looks at inflation-adjusted S&P 500 earnings over the past decade relative to stock prices, has averaged 17 over the long term but now sits at 36.65, he explained.

"And what that means is that the S&P simple calculation would need to fall 54% to bring it back to that 17 average. And you notice in the past, when that drops, it usually drops below that long-term average," Shilling said.

"So it is an indication that stocks are very, very expensive and if there is any correction, and I think there will be, I still think you can have a 30% correction in stocks easily. But it could be a big shock to a lot of people."

Shilling also estimated a 40% or 50% chance for a recession, citing various economic indicators, including a reinverted yield curve for two- and 10-year Treasury bonds. A soft landing is "definitely not" ensured, he said.

He called office properties the second biggest threat to the economy after a potential recession, noting low occupancies and heavy debts coming due.

"As we all know, you had a tremendous movement of people working from home during the pandemic, and they've been reluctant to go back to the office, even though there's been considerable encouragement by landlords," the economist said.

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