Too Much Client Nest Egg Value Depends on 10 Stocks: Apollo CEO

News November 02, 2023 at 11:45 AM
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The head of Athene's parent says the concentrated nature of ordinary U.S. retirement savings portfolios makes the idea of wealthy people investing in private credit look better.

Marc Rowan, the CEO of Apollo Global Management, the asset manager that acquired full control of Athene in 2022, talked about what he sees as lack of real diversification in retirement assets Wednesday, during a conference call Apollo held to go over third-quarter earnings with securities analysts.

What it means: You tell your retirement planning clients to diversify their portfolios.

Rowan contends that, in reality, too many people are depending too much on the performance of just a few companies.

Apollo and Athene: Apollo is a New York-based asset manager that reported $660 million in net income for the third quarter on $1.3 billion in fee and spread-related earnings and $631 billion in assets under management.

Athene writes annuities, reinsures annuities for other insurers and assumes pension risk by selling group annuities to the plan sponsors. It and related retirement services operations ended the third quarter with $261 billion in invested assets.

Rowan on nest eggs: Rowan sees lack of investment diversification as one of the major challenges facing retirement savers.

The headwinds include lack of liquidity in the public bond markets, regulatory pressures that are causing banks to lend less, and the rise of index-based investing, Rowan said.

"Eighty percent of volume of trading today is S&P 500," Rowan said. "Ten stocks make up nearly 35% of the S&P 500."

Those 10 companies account for 100% of public stock investment returns recorded so far this year, and those companies' stock prices are very high relative to the companies' earnings, Rowan added.

Stock prices at the companies are about 44 to 52 times higher than the companies' earnings, Rowan noted.

In the past, typical stock-price-to-earnings ratios were less than half that.

"Not many of you come in every day looking to buy 50 PE stocks," Rowan said. "Yet we feel really comfortable with a massive portion of our country's retirement system assets and fiduciary assets in 50 PE stocks."

If a wealthy client invests in private credit and locks money away in exchange for a high rate of return, that exposure to liquidity risk looks tolerable when compared with ordinary retirement savers' investment concentration risk, Rowan said.

Pictured: Apollo CEO Marc Rowan. Photo: Jonathan Alcorn/Bloomberg

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