Married couples can and do fight about money — but most are inept at clearly communicating about it.
Ekaterina Klimentova, a tax partner in Cerity Partners, maintains that financial advisors who facilitate premarital money talks perform one of the most beneficial services for their client couples.
“It’s embarrassing for most couples to start this conversation. … It’s not romantic to talk about money,” Klimentova, co-author of the 2021 white paper “In a Relationship? So Are Your Finances” says in an interview with ThinkAdvisor. “But if a couple doesn’t do it before they marry, it can be devastating.”
Before joining Cerity, which oversees more than $100 billion in client assets and ranks seventh on Barron’s list of Top 100 RIAs for 2024, Klimentova was associate managing director at Lebenthal Family Office and a tax and family office manager at Neuberger Berman’s Executive Monetary Management.
Klimentova focuses largely on helping client couples “cohabitate soundly financially,” as she puts it. That includes learning about each other’s “financial personality.” Up next: creating a financial plan, as well as becoming aware of the power of starting retirement planning early.
In the interview with Klimentova, a CPA and Certified Divorce Financial Analyst, she discusses the need to delve into martial property versus separate property, prenuptial agreements (“… like a living will for the marriage”) and tax planning as a couple (“… look long and hard before you sign a [joint] return.”)
Here are excerpts from our conversation:
THINKADVISOR: The inability of spouses to communicate about finances is the second-leading cause of divorce after sexual infidelity, a 2018 Ramsey Solutions study found. Your thoughts?
EKATERINA KLIMENTOVA: I agree 100%. This [issue] is a major cause of financial infidelity, which indicates that financial infidelity probably occurs as much as [sexual] infidelity.
When you discover something hidden in a spouse’s financial dealings, it’s very traumatizing. I’ve seen it leading to a lot of divorces.
So marital financial planning is critical. Right?
Open and honest communication about financial life is vital for a healthy relationship. Unfortunately, money still has a lot of stigma. It’s not romantic to talk about money.
But if a couple doesn’t do it before they marry, it can be devastating. It’s very important for people to learn about each other as financial personalities: For example, one could be a saver, one a spender.
Once expectations are set, you can start planning around those strengths and weaknesses and how to manage them.
Such as?
If one is a spender, maybe they shouldn’t handle the joint checking account from which all household bills are paid. And maybe they should have an “allowance.” They might have a [spending limit] of, say, $1,000.
Should the financial advisor facilitate a money talk for the couple before they marry?
Yes, because it’s embarrassing for most couples to start this conversation. Some people are cool about it, but not the majority. Even the most financially astute find it hard to start a money conversation.
When should a financial advisor introduce it?
The most important thing is being proactive versus dealing with the aftermath [of a financial calamity].
Every problem can have a solution if it’s property planned for and you’re being proactive.
What should be brought up in the money talk?
What are your goals? Do you want to buy a house? Have a kid? How do you get there? What do you ordinarily do with your paycheck? Does part go into your savings? Does all of it go into your checking account? Does it immediately go to pay your credit card bill?
What does the advisor do with the answers?
Interprets them to help the couple function and cohabitate soundly financially.