At Edelman, M&A Is a 'Cultural Alignment,' Not a 'Conveyor Belt'

Q&A December 27, 2024 at 03:16 PM
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More than 200 mergers and acquisitions happen annually in the RIA space. And although the pace of dealmaking varies from firm to firm, that mega-trend shows no signs of cooling.

“M&A activity is a chief pillar of our growth strategy … but we’re not doing it on a conveyor belt,” Suzanne van Staveren, chief financial officer and chief operating officer of Edelman Financial Engines, says in an interview with ThinkAdvisor. “We look for the right cultural alignment.”

Edelman Financial Services and Financial Engines merged in 2018; Viridian Advisors was its first acquisition three years later.

In the past three years, the firm has acquired eight RIAs totaling $5.4 billion, according to van Staveren, a 2024 ThinkAdvisor Luminaries finalist for RIA M&A Executive of the Year.

Edelman has more than 360 financial planners in about 140 offices. Van Staveren highlights three states that the firm has been focused on most recently for mergers and discusses succession planning as a major motivator for smaller firms looking to be acquired.

In the interview with Van Staveren, who previously was with Goldman Sachs and Fidelity Investments, she notes that Edelman’s acquiring RIAs is significant, in part, because with them, the firm can “fill in geographic gaps where [its] clients and prospects live.”

Here are excerpts from our conversation:

THINKADVISOR: How big is M&A activity among RIAs right now?

SUZANNE VAN STAVEREN: Mergers and acquisitions is one of the biggest trends within the RIA industry. Every year, 200-plus deals take place, and $100 billion in AUM changes firms via M&A.

Why has it become so popular?

A lot of the firms have private equity ownerships that are looking for faster organic as well as inorganic growth. It’s part of the private equity model.

There will continue to be more consolidation. Firms are approaching this in different ways. Some are doing rollups. We are not; we like to merge with firms that want to fully integrate with us.

What’s another reason for M&A growth?

Succession planning is a really big part of why smaller RIAs do it: They’ll have a founder who built a really successful firm, and now there’s no one to take it over.

Just what role does M&A play at Edelman Financial Engines?

M&A is a chief pillar of our growth strategy. We’ve done eight M&A transactions in the last three years, totaling $5.4 billion.

Our goal is to complement our organic growth with more M&A in 2025. But unlike other firms, perhaps, we won’t be doing 10 or 15 transactions a year.

We’re a financial planning firm first. So what we look for is the right cultural alignment for us. We take a very personalized approach, which is important. We’re not doing it on a conveyor belt.

And we have a very thoughtful integration process that doesn’t impact our clients.

What are the main pluses for Edelman in acquiring other firms?

We get to add new talent. We get to expand our capabilities, and thirdly, we get to serve more clients and manage more assets with the platform we’ve built.

We have tremendous scale and technology. Acquiring firms allows us to fill in geographic gaps where our clients and prospects live.

What’s a recent deal that you’ve closed?

Soundmark Wealth Management, [which has] more than $450 million in AUM and [is] in the Pacific Northwest. For years, our value proposition has resonated in that region.

We very quickly saw there was a culture fit with Soundmark.

The founders were considering its succession plan and looking for an opportunity to get support with administrative and back-office work, including compliance, so their team could focus more on client service and growing the firm.

Why is the Pacific Northwest such a good fit for you?

It’s because of the [wealth management] clients and the variety of workplace business relationships we have there.

That brings me to our internal lead flow.

Tell me about it.

On the workplace side, we provide managed account solutions within 401(k) plans. This is where we get our internal lead flow: people with 401(k)s who are clients of ours.

It could be a kid just out of school who’s started to contribute to their 401(k). [That means] there’s a lot of opportunity for us to help them with their other financial needs also.

This is where we really bring together the legacy of Edelman Financial Services with our workplace business so that there’s internal lead flow: people who are already clients of ours through their 401(k)s [coming] to our planners.

So the internal lead flow capability came about through the merger of Edelman and Financial Engines? 

Yes. That’s one of the many benefits we now have, as well as our external lead flow.

Our highly differentiated workplace referral channel [begins with] the relationships we have with existing clients who want to expand into the wealth management side.

Years ago, in an interview, Ric Edelman told me that the firm’s planners needn’t prospect, that they were more or less handed the clients, and that all the planners used the same approach to financial planning. Still true?

Yes. We’re looking for those teams that are financial planning first. The lead [approach] that Ric was telling you about continues: We provide leads to our planners.

You’re a national firm. In what states are you most interested in acquiring practices?

In the last couple of years, we’ve focused on California, Massachusetts and Washington state.

And it also comes down to finding the right cultural fit and firms that can bring in new resources and capabilities.

For example, we started doing more tax planning when we made our first acquisition back in 2021 with Viridian Advisors. They had a tax practice, and that was when we started to lean more into tax planning.

Why have you focused even more on tax planning lately?

Those decisions are such an important part of the planning process. Taxes always were a key component, but our research has reinforced that.

In the past, our clients might have gone to different places for tax planning. So we really want to be able to help [all of] them more by having those experts in-house.

How does doing tax planning ultimately affect Edelman planners?

Tax planning and Social Security needs are part of the modern wealth planning experience. That work reinforces the relationship.

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