How One RIA Unlocked Growth by Outsourcing Investment Management

Q&A December 26, 2024 at 04:12 PM
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All industries evolve over time, some more quickly than others. But in the experience of Michael Manning, the financial advisor industry has been a bit of an outlier.

Manning runs The Manning Companies, a wealth management and retirement planning firm affiliated with Commonwealth Financial, and got his start in the industry over 35 years ago.

While change has certainly happened — he started out cold calling potential clients from the phone book and going door to door to drum up new business — many aspects of the advisory profession remain relatively antiquated, he says.

Manning’s own practice has undergone a significant evolution in his 14-plus years with Commonwealth, and he sees more innovation coming, such as the firm's forthcoming tax overlay capabilities.

Here are some highlights from our conversation:

THINKADVISOR: Can you tell us about your client base and service approach? What keeps you engaged in the business?

MICHAEL MANNING: The fact is that I am still in the business because I love what I do, and I enjoy having the opportunity to help people with something that is very important — their financial stability.

Honestly, it’s never really felt like a “job” for me. It’s always been something that’s been fun, so I’ve never been the kind of person who yearned for retirement.

It’s interesting because, in a way, I feel like I am already partly retired, and that’s due to the way I have been able to evolve my business. Some years back, we made the decision to prune our database and sell off the smaller accounts that weren’t efficient to service with an older, manual approach.

In the time since, we have been able to build an infrastructure to serve accounts ranging from $50,000 to $20 million or more. It’s something that wouldn’t have been possible if we weren’t affiliated with Commonwealth.

How is the new investment work designed?

It’s based on a program from Commonwealth called PPS Select. It’s a platform that allows us to outsource investment management, which is a huge help with efficiency.

We’re able to take on smaller accounts and put them into model portfolios where they are getting professional money management — the proper asset allocation, diversification, rebalancing and all that stuff that used to take a lot of time under a traditional approach.

The other key is that we developed a modular client touchpoint system. We reassessed just how often we need to talk face-to-face with clients with lower levels of assets and less financial complexity, and then we complement this with a lot of automatic touchpoints — things like newsletters or articles written by myself.

We’ve also brought on some younger advisors to help us with the smaller accounts, and that’s been a success so far. Ultimately, this approach has made us a heck of a lot more efficient, and that’s important, because we are in growth mode.

We are open to buying up other advisors’ practices, and we want scale. Today, we’re approaching the $1 billion milestone, including both the relatively new retirement plan business and wealth management.

Was it hard to let go of investment management, given that you worked directly on client portfolios for much of your career?

It’s an interesting question, because in a sense the answer is "yes" and "no."

Frankly, about five or six years ago, I was having trouble sleeping at night, just thinking about the fact that we were responsible for serving over 600 households. I had confidence in our approach, but sometimes I would lie away and just be thinking, are we really doing everything we can with their investments?

Are we using the right ETFs for efficiency? Are we picking the correct individual stocks or mutual funds? Is there more we should be doing in terms of managing these increasingly complex portfolios in a dynamic and evolving market? It was causing me genuine anxiety.

Eventually, I decided it was time for a change, so I met with the Commonwealth team that was running the PPS outsourcing platform at one of our national conferences. I told them about my issues, and we started to realize that PPS Select would be a great thing for my practice.

It was the best decision I ever made in my business. I don’t have those sleepless nights anymore.

You mentioned starting on the retirement plan side relatively recently. What was the thinking behind that?

So, early on, I had gained some experience setting up small retirement plans for business owners, but it was relatively informal. More recently, we had an acquisition opportunity come along, and part of that acquisition was a well-developed retirement plan business.

I spoke to some other advisers at Commonwealth who had already gone the direction of having both wealth management and retirement, and after hearing about their positive experience, I felt comfortable and we made the acquisition.

I like to credit myself for being savvy about using technology and protecting our operational efficiencies, and that’s helped us to make the two sides of the business work well together so far.

It’s a great synergy from a business perspective. We aren’t cross selling aggressively, but it’s just a natural thing. When you work with a business owner and you are their trusted wealth manager, you can provide a lot of additional value by helping them set up a high-quality retirement plan — especially considering all the new state mandates for retirement plans.

Do you have any insights about making acquisitions and integrating firms?

It’s been an interesting journey. So far, we’ve done six acquisitions, and the largest was $200 million. Our “standard” deal has been, say, between $20 million and $60 million, so they aren’t gigantic or transformative deals. It’s been more strategic. For example, we have one teed up now for another $100 million.

What I can say is that it’s a competitive space. You hear these statistics about how many buyers are out there for how many sellers and it’s kind of a bit ridiculous. It’s easily eight to ten buyers for every seller.

We are able to have success, however, because we are offering a win-win-win for us as the buyer, for the seller and ultimately for the client.

For any deal to be successful, the handoff needs to be as smooth as possible. That often requires both parties sitting down and meeting with the largest clients. And we do things like send out client letters that explain that this is going to be a slow transition out for the existing advisor.

Our experience so far is that people don’t really want to move around. So, if there’s a strong endorsement from the retiring advisor telling his clients that this is a good path forward, that’s usually enough.

And then my team can explain that we are going to be delivering our advice through a more robust platform and a much more efficient system.

Thus far, our client retention is well north of 95%, and that’s simply because the value proposition is more than just managing money. It’s financial planning; it's wealth management.

It’s teaching the most effective way to give to charity. It's a generational wealth transfer. It's estate planning and more. They're getting so much more from us.

Pictured: Michael Manning

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