The future is clear, according to Jamie Hopkins: Unless RIAs start providing in-house trust services, clients will take such business to the increasing number of competitors who do offer it.
“By not getting involved in the estate planning and trust business, RIAs are definitely putting their business revenue at risk long term,” Hopkins, chief wealth officer of WSFS Bank and CEO of Bryn Mawr Capital Management, a WSFS subsidiary, argues in an interview with ThinkAdvisor. “To serve next-generation clients, they need to offer this.”
Hopkins, who moved to Bryn Mawr as director of private wealth management in September 2023, unpacks a number of important reasons for RIAs to step up and embrace trust work. He suggests that they partner with one to three trust companies. WSFS Bank is a large bank and trust company in the Greater Philadelphia and Delaware region.
In 2020, Hopkins founded FinServ Foundation, a nonprofit developing the next generation of financial professionals, of which he is president. Kellan Brown, executive director, earlier this month was a winner of a ThinkAdvisor 2024 “Luminaries with a Heart” award.
In the interview with Hopkins, previously managing partner of wealth solutions at Carson Group, he suggests that trust work offers RIA clients added value to contribute to their “all-in-one experience.”
Here are highlights of our conversation:
THINKADVISOR: How significant is estate planning to the advisory business?
JAMIE HOPKINS: In the last couple of years, estate planning services, like Vanilla and Wealth.com, have popped up because the estate planning aspect is becoming important in financial planning.
Investing, tax planning, insurance all came before because that’s where we were meeting clients in the life cycle of their need.
So this is the natural evolution. The estate planning wave really is the next big financial planning service that RIAs are going to be adding.
What’s the main purpose of a trust?
You can boil trusts down to three simple areas:
Convenience — they make the estate planning process easier. Then there’s control — trusts control the assets long term. And thirdly, they’re used to minimize the tax and run-off burden of the assets.
RIAs are just on the periphery of the trust business. What are they passing up?
By not getting involved in the estate planning and trust business, RIAs are definitely putting their business revenue at risk long term. To serve next-generation clients, they need to offer this.
Why does not offering trust service affect their business so significantly?
If you’re not doing this work for your clients, it’s Goldman or a handful of other large trust companies, and now even custodians, who are. Fidelity has a direct-to-consumer trust offering. Lots of national trust companies are out there looking for these clients.
So if you’re not bringing this service, clients are eventually going to find it elsewhere.
Any other reason?
Trusts are part of financial planning. It can just be a revocable trust that’s for holding assets and making the estate process a little bit smoother. Sometimes, you don’t need anything more complicated than that.
In other situations, where there’s much more complicated planning, you’re picking the location of the trust, Nevada and Delaware being the two most popular states.
What’s one major way that trust service benefits RIA revenue?