Edward Jones Hits 20,000 Advisors. Its Next Target? New York City

Q&A November 19, 2024 at 04:25 PM
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Hitting a headcount of 20,000 financial advisors marks a milestone for Edward Jones, says David Chubak, U.S. business unit and branch development head, and means the firm can “serve more clients more completely” across North America.

Chubak, in an interview with ThinkAdvisor, said the recruiting milestone coincides with Edward Jones' broader push to pivot to a planning-focused footing that prioritizes goal-setting and long-term collaboration with clients over product distribution.

“To that end, we are adding financial planning services to thousands of branch teams that will help to satisfy clients’ increasing preferences for a more personalized experience,” Chubak said. “The other key to our success has been offering increased flexibility for advisors in terms of how they run their practices, and we have nearly 3,000 financial advisors now active in new practice and teaming models."

Taking this path is crucial in a wealth management environment, Chubak said, in which some $84 trillion of investable assets are set to change hands across generations in the next decade.

Building planning-focused, intergenerational relationships with clients will be vital in this context.

“Americans must prepare through wealth planning and open communication with their heirs, and we have a big role to play in that,” Chubak said.

In the interview with Chubak, who estimates that nearly 40% of financial advisors are likely to retire over this same time frame, he noted that Edward Jones projects increasing its headcount by 3% annually for the foreseeable future.

“As more Americans seek financial advice, we know we need to fill the gap as advisors retire,” Chubak said. “It won’t be easy to accomplish, but I’m confident we can make it happen.”

Here are excerpts from our conversation:

THINKADVISOR: What are you focusing on, now that the firm stands at 20,000 advisors?

DAVID CHUBAK: It’s a goal we have been focused on achieving for some time. In my role, I have the privilege of leading our U.S. business and branch development. In total, I’m responsible for about 44,000 people in the field across advisors and support staff.

As we close in on the end of a successful year, I would point to three big trends that I’m focused on. Each of them is a big deal individually, but when you put them together, it’s game changing.

The first thing I’m thinking about is advisor demographics. We have about 300,000 advisory professionals here in the United States, and it is no exaggeration to suggest that more than a third of them could retire within the next decade.

It’s not theoretical. This is the second year in a row where the industry is actually set to end the year with fewer financial advisors than it started.

This is remarkable because we are also navigating a moment of major financial uncertainty for the typical household, which means more and more people across all wealth levels are looking for advice at a time when we are expecting to have fewer advisors available.

Second, I’m thinking about the great wealth transfer. We’re in the first innings of a process that could see $84 trillion of wealth change hands in the next decade. That’s a flow of wealth that we have never seen before — and one in which advisors are set to play a critical role.

The final trend isn’t talked about as much in the media, but it is related to these first two points. That is, there are as many as 33 million small businesses in America today.

Depending on the source you use, as many as half of the small business owners are over the age of 56. They need help with retirement, business transitions and more.

How do you think about these trends when it comes to setting the competitive strategy at Edward Jones?

The big idea is that we are making a push to serve more clients in a more complete way. That might kind of sound obvious as a business objective, but the reality is that it is not the prevailing strategy in our industry. Many of our competitors are really focused on serving fewer-but-wealthier clients more completely.

We have the aspiration to serve millions of more clients in the years ahead, and we are expanding the offerings for them in a way that shifts our advisors away from a transactional brokerage relationship into a world where we are leading with fiduciary financial planning.

Again, the truth is that Americans across the spectrum face financial uncertainty and anxiety. People often think that the highly wealthy don’t worry about money, for example, and that’s just not true.

Americans are hungry for financial advice across the political spectrum, the wealth spectrum and the age spectrum.

At the same time, people are looking for trusted advice — not just portfolio management — and we see that as a great opportunity for Edward Jones. We are making sure we can be a place where people at all wealth levels can go for broader advice.

That’s been reflected recently in our launch of a separately managed account offering. We’re also expanding our financial planning capabilities all the time, with the big goal for next year being able to bring the combination of fiduciary planning and smart asset management together. It’s a really exciting goal as we go into next year.

Regarding the advisor headcount goals, what makes you confident that you can grow the advisor force steadily even as so many advisors retire?

It’s a real key to our strategy, that’s for sure.

Look, this year we are going to hire somewhere close to 2,000 financial advisors. Most of them, probably up to 1,700 or so, are going to be first-time financial advisors. We’re going to train them, coach them and help them pair with teams and regional support to help them grow.

That’s what it takes to invest in another generation of financial advisors, and we’re optimistic that our strategy to recruit and retain advisors can allow us to grow the headcount somewhere around 3% per year.

It’s not easy to become a successful financial advisor, but we do have a proven formula — one that works even better now that we can provide flexibility around teaming and partnerships. It’s also about creating a combination of the right incentive structure with the time and freedom to focus on learning and growing.

For us, this boils down to a five-year framework where we first bring people in on a salary-based program. It gives them the capacity to learn and then also to build their practice over time.

How does the decision-making about opening new branch locations fit into this strategy?

That’s an interesting question, and it’s an area where we’ve seen some evolution over time, actually.

Back in the day, it used to be the rural markets where we saw the most opportunity, because the big Wall Street banks just weren’t operating in those places.

But, while there are still rural markets with unaddressed need for advice, the fact of the matter is that there are also many urban areas with underserved populations where we can make a big difference. Remember, we don’t have an asset minimum or an asset maximum here at Edward Jones.

How does this play out in practice? Oftentimes, it ends up making sense to establish a new branch in a place where we might already have a presence. Take Florida, for example. Florida is one of the fastest-growing states in the country. We have branches there, but we can also see many areas of unmet demand.

The same is true in parts of Texas and Ohio — in Columbus, for example. Those are markets that we have been in for years and years, but we are able to see even more opportunity because we have local people in the community who see unmet needs first-hand.

We move to open branches in places where we are seeing demand, where we can find a supply of good talent, and where we feel we can really compete effectively. That is playing out in small towns, mid-sized communities and the biggest urban areas.

For example, we are actually getting set to open up a hub in New York City in the spring of 2025. You can argue that Manhattan is one of the most oversaturated wealth markets in the country. I would agree with that, but even so, there is unmet demand for advice.

Pictured: David Chubak

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