What Trump's Win Means for the Markets: 3 VIP Views

November 07, 2024 at 04:46 PM
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What You Need To Know

  • Schwab's Liz Ann Sonders, Creative Planning's Peter Mallouk and Carson Group's Ryan Detrick weigh in on what strategies to embrace.
  • There's not much correlation between market returns and the president, they note.
  • Clients should get off the sidelines, Mallouk suggests, and stick with a diversified portfolio.
Former President Donald Trump speaks at the Bitcoin 2024 conference in Nashville on July 27, 2024.

Investors who watched stocks and bond yields surge after Tuesday's U.S. presidential election may be wondering what exactly to do next with their portfolios.

One lesson from market strategists might put things in perspective: Don't necessarily bet on any sector based on who is headed to the White House. 

This was one theme among others that emerged in ThinkAdvisor discussions with market VIPs this week following Donald Trump's election victory.

Liz Ann Sonders

Liz Ann Sonders, chief investment strategist at Charles Schwab, said in an interview Thursday that she was surprised by how quickly the results arrived and suggested that a rally may have happened if Kamala Harris had won as well without a lengthy wait.

There's no way to know, but  "I think that we might have been poised for a rally under either result with a result being called the next morning," she said.

Sonders cautioned against making immediate assumptions about which industries will benefit under a Trump administration.

"There is peril in long-term extrapolation of some of the narratives that occur in the immediate aftermath of an election result," she said, also noting  "so many uncertainties" in the market now. "It's sort of foolhardy to do extrapolation."

Immediately after Trump's win in 2016, the market expected him to produce a boom for the energy sector, Sonders noted.

The S&P 500 energy sector comprises only traditional energy companies, no renewables, "and they surged in the immediate aftermath" of the 2016 election, Sonders recalled.

"But from Inauguration Day to Inauguration Day under the Trump administration, the energy sector was the single worst-performing sector by a massive margin. It was down 40%, and the next worst sector was up 20%," she said.

"Well, fast forward to the Biden administration, seen as anti-traditional energy, and the narratives in 2020 when he got elected were, 'Boy, this is going to be great for green energy companies. Terrible for traditional energy,'" Sonders added. 

From Joe Biden's inauguration to last week's close, "the energy sector is the best-performing sector, the only one that has more than doubled, and well better than even technology," she said.

Many stocks that surged in the immediate aftermath of Trump winning in 2016 also surged Wednesday, she noted.

"But interestingly, if you were to look at the so-called losers baskets of stocks over the subsequent year after the 2016 election, the loser stocks, meaning those stocks perceived to not benefit from Trump's policies, did more than two times better than the winners," Sonders added.

"It's just another example of the caution around extrapolating and the real point being there are so many other forces that impact what the market does, what individual sectors do, what groups of stocks do," she said.

"Because we're all in the throes of the election, there's too much extrapolating that happens in terms of, 'What's this good for? What's this bad for?'" the market strategist noted.

Market action Wednesday was odd "because the narrative around bond yields surging was tariffs and inflation. Yet the narrative around the equity market surging was 'lower regulation and lower taxes good.' Those two don't really coexist," Sonders said.

As for what investors should prepare for, Sonders suggests that equity markets may see less volatility overall but more frequent spikes. 

Schwab continues to expect sharper rotations in short-term market leadership, a trend that kicked in mid-summer with a give-back in the Magnificent 7 and an initial shift to interest-sensitive areas when the Federal Reserve started telegraphing easier monetary policy, she noted.

It's easy to assume that sharp rotations continue, "with drivers now being around things like tariff policy," Sonders said.

With rising bond yields, Schwab's chief fixed-income strategist, Kathy Jones, has indicated that she may need to rethink her outlook, Sonders noted, adding that fixed income portfolios might require more customization depending on whether the account is taxable and whether it's for diversification or income-generation purposes.

For both equities and fixed income, "this is a backdrop where you do want to stay up in quality," said Sonders. On the fixed income side, "you're not getting enough of a yield pickup by going out the risk spectrum into high yield, given how tight spreads are. So stay in investment grade or in Treasurys," she said.

Sonders would advise investors to stay disciplined, "the boring stuff" like diversification across and within asset classes, making sure they're aware of concentration problems in their portfolio and periodically rebalancing. These are the tried and true recommendations from Schwab, particularly in an environment like this," she said.

While some investors rebalance on a calendar schedule, Schwab suggests considering volatility- or portfolio-based rebalancing, "meaning let moves in your portfolio beyond some parameters dictate when it might make sense to do some trimming or some adding as opposed to just waiting for a moment in time on the calendar," Sonders said.

Advisors, besides conveying these themes to clients, may need to "help the half of the people that are not happy about what happened, not letting the emotion associated with a very emotional election get in the way of investment decision making."

Peter Mallouk

Creative Planning's president and CEO, Peter Mallouk, also recommends sticking with a diversified portfolio.

Addressing potential market activity through year end, he told ThinkAdvisor by email Wednesday, "Betting on two months of market movement is never a good idea, so our strategy is the same: Stick with a diversified portfolio that tilts heavily towards the biggest companies in the United States.

"That's done very well for us over the year, and last 10 years, and likely will over the long run as well," Mallouk added

"Historically, when the market has been up over 20% going into November, it has averaged more than double its normal return over the next two months," he explained.

What would he tell advisors now?

"Clients can make big mistakes around elections, but if the past Trump and Biden administrations have shown us anything, it is that the market finds a way forward. Encourage clients to get invested sooner rather than later. Nothing kills a plan like staying on the sidelines too far into the game," Mallouk said.

"Clients should brace for volatility. Not because of this election, but because the lack of volatility we have seen recently is not at all normal. Expect more of the norm: market swings, corrections and dark moments. We always need the reminders that there is a reason everyone isn't invested in equities," he stated.

Ryan Detrick

Ryan Detrick, Carson Group chief market strategist, sees further potential for stocks this year.

"We've been overweight equities since December 2022 and we remain in that camp. Even though stocks have had such a great run, the truth is many investors have missed the gains," he told ThinkAdvisor by email Wednesday. 

"The economy remains solid, inflation is last year's problem, the election uncertainty is over, and the Fed is now firmly dovish. These are all nice tailwinds and why we continue to expect to see higher prices into the end of this year," Detrick said.

Advisors may need to help clients navigate their post-election emotions, he said.

"Advisors woke up to half of their clients happy and the other half asking should they sell everything. This is why what advisors do is so important, to keep emotions in check, whether clients are too high or too low," he said.

"The reality is history doesn't show much correlation between stock market returns and who is in the White House," he said, suggesting advisors remind clients that the bull market likely has "plenty of legs left" given the strong economy, record earnings, contained inflation and a dovish Fed.

"The continued broadening out of this bull market is one trend we see continuing. Areas like small caps, midcaps, financials and industrials are all areas that should benefit from a strong economy in 2025," Detrick added.

"We continue to stress to own a diversified portfolio and one that doesn't just always chase the shiny object. There are many parts of this market that aren't expensive and those likely will be the areas that lead going out into next year," he added.

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