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Want Your Clients to Invest More? Educate Them, Ex-NFL Linebacker Says

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While many financial advisors have dismissed the effort as a bother, it is indeed worth an advisor’s time to teach clients new to investing what it’s all about.

So says Brandon Copeland, a former NFL linebacker who teaches financial literacy at his alma mater, the University of Pennsylvania, in an interview with ThinkAdvisor.

“When you’re doing a great job and educating your clients, it only makes them want to invest more and, hopefully … have more assets they can hand off to you to manage,” Copeland maintains.

Copeland, whose 10-year NFL career included stops with the Baltimore Ravens, New York Jets and Detroit Lions, retired before the 2023 season. The CEO of Athletes.org, the players association for college athletes, writes about investing — “You need to play a lot of offense and really tough defense,” he says — in the upcoming book, “Your Money Playbook: How to Earn More, Build Wealth and Win at Life.”

In the interview, Copeland reveals why he took his mother out of target-date funds and into an aggressive mix of stocks and fewer bonds. He also unpacks what he misses about playing football and why he has zero interest in being a financial advisor.

Here are highlights of our conversation:

THINKADVISOR: Please compare playing football with investing in the securities markets. 

BRANDON COPELAND: Every NFL team has a game plan and a scouting report so you know your opponents before the game. You just don’t show up on Sunday and start calling plays.

Investing and managing your money, you need a plan too. It will help you stay true during times of chaos in the markets. 

A plan allows you to have a better chance without getting emotional.

Is this as easy as it sounds?

It’s not foolproof: Teams choke in the fourth quarter on the football field all the time. And it happens with investors too. 

But having a game plan is one way to help make sure you’re as intentional as possible with all your financial decisions.

OK, but what’s a big investing trap?

One of the traps and, even more so in creating wealth, is debts.

If you’re paying high-interest-rate debts and investing your money, will you be able to get returns on the capital you’ve invested? Or are you losing money every single year? 

You need to be sure your financial affairs are in order so you’re not losing money when you invest.

“Diversification is … the defense to your offense,” you write. Please elaborate.

If you’re over-allocated in one particular asset or asset class, or one stock, that can truly hurt you during various periods of time.

Diversifying your investments, along with investing in ETFs or index funds, as opposed to a single name, gives you a stronger foundation when the chaos of the market presents itself. 

What advice do you have for financial advisors working with young clients or others new to investing?

If you have a client that’s looking to be educated, it’s awesome to try your best to educate them with the approach that’s best for how their brain works.

I mean, not everyone can look at a spreadsheet and financial reports and see the world the same way a financial advisor does.

So you may have to meet them [where they are] with videos, and virtual learning sessions and other ways. 

Teach them according to where they are on the learning curve so they can continue to develop their understanding.

What’s the chief benefit to the advisor of doing that?

Years ago, some financial advisors looked at educating clients as a negative thing. They didn’t necessarily want to deal with the hassle. 

But when you’re doing a great job and educating your clients, it only makes them want to invest more and, hopefully, makes them stronger financially and have more assets they can hand off to you to manage.

Tell me the main reason some pro athletes go broke, and how can that be avoided. 

NFL players have been doing a much better job of starting to learn the language of money and not turning it over to an advisor who they just met and not checking on them. 

Managing the advisor better is one form of defense.

What’s the best way for pro football players to protect their money?

By looking at the money they’re making in the NFL as something special and go into protection mode.

It doesn’t mean you have to be super-conservative with all your investments. But it also doesn’t mean you need to take the money and bet it all on black with every single investment you make.

Putting some capital in places that will spin off dividends and other income streams puts you in a position to make clear decisions about your investments. 

Sticking with a budget is also significant for players. Isn’t it?

Your budget is extremely important, trying to make sure you’re not overspending and that you’re looking at the NFL as an opportunity.

A career opportunity?

Anybody earning large sums of money [especially for a known limited time] should look at it as the opportunity of a lifetime, keep expenses at the lowest level possible and put the surplus to work for you or save it. 

For NFL players, that will help bolster them when their career is over, the fans stop cheering and they’re no longer welcome in the locker room.

Have you ever had any financial setbacks?

Absolutely. I lost money on options trading [during college], which led me to start investing in real estate. And, unfortunately, I’ve had folks who tried to [exploit] me for my money.

Talk about how you helped your mother make money in the stock market.

In around 2017, she was in target-date funds, largely bonds. They were conservative and positioned her based on her age — in her 50s. The funds weren’t aggressive in their earning ability.

Her bonds’ performance wasn’t competitive with what she could receive from investing in the market in equities.

So I wanted her to be in more aggressive [investments] and have her money work a little harder so she could be receiving larger returns ahead of her retirement.

I had her take her money out of target-date funds and put it into equities. And at that time, we had one of the best bull runs the market has ever seen.

A year ago this month, you retired from the NFL. How does it feel?

Great! I get to spend more time with my family.

But on Sundays, every once in a while, you miss running out of the tunnel through the white smoke to 70,000 screaming fans. 

I’ll always miss putting on the pads, being in the locker room with the guys. I enjoyed every single moment of it. 

I had a storybook career with a bunch of roller coaster ups and downs. It was perfect.

Owning a sports team is a side hustle, you write. Do you have a side hustle?

Yes, multiple side hustles. My main ones are the commercial real estate company I’ve created, and I educate people in financial literacy. 

I’ve created a production company (www.Life101.io) that provides online financial education courses.

Have you ever considered becoming a financial advisor?

No. I’m multi-faceted: I might not slow down long enough to do one thing for that long.


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