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20 Lessons for a Successful Retirement: Christine Benz

Q&A July 26, 2024 at 03:24 PM
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Christine Benz, the financial planning researcher and strategist, has penned a new book on retirement. "How to Retire: 20 Lessons for a Happy, Successful, and Wealthy Retirement" is scheduled for release on Sept. 17.

Benz, the director of personal finance and retirement planning at Morningstar, offered a sneak peek at the project in an interview with ThinkAdvisor. She noted that the book includes a "very special foreword" by Jonathan Clements, the longtime Wall Street Journal columnist and author.

It also features insights from such "retirement VIPs" as Michael Finke, Carolyn McClanahan, William Bernstein, Cameron Huddleston, David Blanchett, Jean Chatzky, Wade Pfau, Mary Beth Franklin and Jamie Hopkins. Each engages with Benz in a focused conversation on one key area of retirement planning.

"I'm profoundly grateful to all of them," Benz said. "The real goal of the book was to try to harness all of their great wisdom and share it with the public. The goal is not to say that I have all the answers to retirement. We've tried to approach this topic with a sense of humility."

While the book includes many points of consensus on achieving a successful retirement, Benz said, it also features areas of "friendly and very informative" disagreement among the experts. Two examples are the best way to construct a retirement portfolio and the appropriate role of guaranteed income annuities.

Benz tried to capture the deep challenges and the big opportunities that people face preparing for and navigating life after work. She hopes that the book will be of use to both financial professionals and their clients.

Here are some highlights from the conversation.

THINKADVISOR: Can you tell us about where the idea for the book came from and why you went with the 20 lessons approach?

CHRISTINE BENZ: Yes, of course. The genesis for the book and its structure came out of discussions with my editor at Harriman House. We had been talking about me doing some sort of retirement book for a while now, and this is what we settled on.

At one point, he said to me: "You do these Long View podcast interviews with all these experts. What if we were to structure a book around it and you used an interview format for the book?" And so, the idea was to take these great conversations with retirement thought leaders and have each of these offer a lesson about how to do manage some aspect of retirement planning.

What I love about the project is that it's not just about the retirement math. As Michael Finke says early on, retirement planning is not just a math problem. There are so many other dimensions, behavioral considerations and just personal issues that play into retirement planning. We cover all of this in the new book.

Was anyone hard to pin down to participate? Or did they all join in enthusiastically?

Oh, I don't think there was anyone who was hard to get from my wish list, which was just wonderful. I had some great conversations with them all over last summer, and from there we got moving into the editing process.

As you know, moving from a raw transcript to a fluid, readable discussion takes a lot of work. It's about understanding how to organize the information so that it flows logically on the page and is really getting across what you want to get across.

My editors helped me a lot with that, with understanding what information to prioritize and how to make sure these experts were getting the right information across to readers.

How did you select the particular 20 topics?

Well, I wanted this to be a book that would stick around for a while and be helpful to people for at least a few years. So, I didn't want this to be a book where we were totally focused on, like, the tiny minutiae of what the tax code says today and exactly what the specific rules for retirement distributions are at this moment.

These things change pretty quickly over time, and they don't necessarily speak to the bigger picture of what it takes to achieve a successful retirement. Instead, we are focused on the bigger topics and some more evergreen considerations about retirement planning.

I'd also say that we strove to identify topics that would be useful to both advisors and their clients. I like to imagine the clients learning new things as they read and the advisor nodding right along in agreement.

I see that the foreword was written by Jonathan Clements. Did you know him before writing he book?

I'm glad you asked that, because I have been hugely influenced by Jonathan's work in terms of my own career. As I told him recently, when I started at Morningstar, it was as a fund analyst, where I was doing research on individual funds and more granular stuff.

At that time, I had a Wall Street Journal subscription, and I had the conviction that I should read The Wall Street Journal every day from cover to cover. In hindsight, that sounds a little ridiculous, but the result was that I pretty quickly realized how great Jonathan's work was. This was a guy who was telling people what they really wanted to know about their finances.

He had the vision about the importance of indexing, for example, which at the time was not as widely accepted as it is today. He inspired me to focus more on matters of financial planning and to get out of the weeds with purely investment matters.

Regarding our relationship, I've had the wonderful opportunity to get to know him through our mutual involvement with the Bogleheads group. Jonathan has been a great ally to the group and has spoken at many of our conferences and events, so we've had the chance to get to know each other well.

I was just so thrilled when he agreed to write a foreword for the book, also because he's such a beautiful writer.

You've said there are some points of disagreement in the book among the experts. What are some of these?

That's right, and I think it reflects the fact that no one has all of the answers about how to retire well. There isn't just one single way to look at everything, and the book reflects that.

For example, one area where there are differences of opinion among the experts is in terms of portfolio construction matters for retirees. Some argue that the best approach is to build the portfolio with a baseline ladder of Treasury inflation-protected securities, while others see a more fundamental role of equities as a primary component of retirees' portfolios.

There's actually a chapter where my colleague Susan Dziubinski interviews me about the bucket approach to portfolio construction — and my bucket approach is not necessarily just a TIPS ladder-based portfolio. I prefer holding a diversified stock and bond portfolio with an element of TIPS as a ballast.

The book also features a discussion with Wade Pfau about his Retirement Income Style Awareness framework, which helps us to see the various different approaches people may resonate with when it comes to managing their wealth and income in retirement. Again, there's not just one single way to navigate retirement. It's personal for everyone.

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