There's No Magic Retirement Number for Everyone: Wade Pfau

Q&A July 16, 2024 at 09:12 AM
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The development of better variable spending strategies represents one of the most compelling approaches to improving retirement outcomes, according to Wade Pfau, the retirement researcher and co-founder of the Retirement Income Style Awareness platform.

However, Pfau asserts in a recent interview with ThinkAdvisor, many in the general public remain tied to traditional rules of thumb when planning for retirement — either concentrating on achieving a lofty "retirement number" or on pursuing simple "safe spending" frameworks like the 4% withdrawal rule.

Ultimately, the complexity of retirement income planning stems from multiple sources of interrelated uncertainty, Pfau said, and it is only by identifying and tackling the problem in a holistic way that effective solutions are created.

"We don't know what is going to happen in the markets, and we don't know what our own futures will bring, and so there is just so much uncertainty to deal with," Pfau said.

It's up to financial advisors to help clients grapple with the many factors associated with saving for and then entering retirement in a confident way, Pfau said.

In the interview with Pfau, who argues that helping people realize — and emotionally accept — that some degree of uncertainty is inevitable, he also delved into the intricacies of the "decumulation challenge."

Here are highlights from our conversation:

THINKADVISOR: What is the biggest way planning for retirement spending differs from saving for retirement?

WADE PFAU: Retirees become more vulnerable to market volatility in retirement as their expenses must be met through asset distributions rather than through their income from working. This enhances sequence-of-return risk, in which the market returns right after retirement play a disproportionate role in determining retirement success.

Selling shares to meet expenses during a market downturn can dig a hole for the portfolio that is difficult to overcome even if the overall market recovers. When you combine this with longevity risk and spending shocks, it makes it very hard to figure out the maximum amount of spending that will be sustainable.

This contrasts with pre-retirement, where spending can more simply be calibrated to some percentage of income.

Does it make sense for people to focus on one "retirement number," such as $1 million or $1.5 million?

I have mixed feelings about this. On the one hand, I have done research about the idea of "safe savings rates" which showed how it's overly conservative to focus on a "number" for retirement to which a conservative withdrawal rate like the 4% rule is then applied. This is because lower sustainable withdrawal rates tend to follow bull markets, which make it easier to meet a wealth target for retirement.

But for those approaching retirement in a bear market, meeting such a wealth target can be more difficult and may not be necessary if a belief is held that, someday, markets will recover such that a higher withdrawal rate could be applied post retirement.

However, my conflict is that, with actual planning, I've moved away from this type of Monte Carlo simulation world to adopt the funded ratio, [which] compares assets to liabilities to see if sufficient assets are available to meet retirement spending goals.

Conservative assumptions are used for the market return, longevity and any potential spending shocks. If assets are sufficient, one can retire. And, though the funded ratio does not directly worry about meeting a "number," it does back out of the analysis that a certain amount of assets can be targeted to make the plan work.

In this context, I think it is OK to think about a number. I do have a number in mind for my own planning. But there is still the limitation that it may be unnecessarily hard to meet that number when approaching retirement in a bear market.

Is the 4% rule still helpful? How might it guide or mislead the typical retiree?

For those far from retirement, the 4% rule could be a helpful way to calibrate approximate savings needs for retirement, but it does not actually work as a retirement spending strategy.

The basic idea is sound. Retirees would like to enjoy a constant inflation-adjusted spending lifestyle in retirement. However, this soundness falls apart as soon as one recognizes the basic assumptions of the 4% rule that limit its real-world usefulness.

Simply, the 4% rule calibrates from U.S. historical data to say it is sustainable for 30 years to spend 4% of the investment portfolio in year one, and then increase this spending for inflation in subsequent years. This corresponds to a 1.3% real return assumption for the portfolio, which is quite conservative in light of today's TIPS yields.

But in real life, retirees will have assets and income from outside their portfolio that may not align with constant inflation-adjusted spending. For instance, they may be retired, but delaying Social Security, or they may have a pension or annuity that is not inflation-adjusted.

Additionally, the 4% rule ignores taxes, and with different tax advantages, a progressive tax code and the lack of inflation protection in the way Social Security is taxed, it's almost impossible for taxes to remain constant in inflation-adjusted terms even if after-tax spending is constant. So, constant pre-tax, inflation-adjusted spending will not translate into the more important post-tax, inflation-adjusted spending.

Other simplifying assumptions of the 4% rule that may not apply for real-world retirees include holding an aggressive stock allocation of 50% to 75% in retirement, avoiding investment fees, a willingness to spend the portfolio down to $0 after 30 years, and the reality that spending needs may not fully keep pace with inflation throughout retirement.

Is there anything surprising to you about the current state of retirement planning?

I am surprised that the power of risk pooling is not more commonly appreciated in today's retirement planning landscape. People like their Social Security and pension benefits, but they are reluctant to consider commercial annuities that can offer the same types of benefits in terms of supported spending on a lifetime basis.

In various research studies, I consistently find that risk pooling through insurance and annuities is competitive with the potential returns provided through the risk premium of the stock market. But I think many investment managers maintain a belief that even for retirees, a diversified portfolio can easily outperform a life-contingent income supported through a commercial annuity.

What's one thing that makes you optimistic about the future of retirement? And any big worries?

I think more people are realizing that there are different viable approaches or styles when it comes to building a retirement strategy.

Some people are comfortable relying on growth through a diversified investment portfolio. Others may like a floor of protected lifetime income to cover their basics before investing for more discretionary types of goals. And some will feel comfortable with the story provided by a time-segmented approach in which bonds are used to cover upcoming expenses — so that risky assets can be invested for long-term growth.

Any of these approaches is ultimately fine if it resonates with the individual retiree. There are still plenty of financial advisors who choose one approach and advocate its usefulness for everyone, but we are seeing more and more advisors take an agnostic approach in which they seek to tailor a strategy that meets the behavioral needs of each client to ensure better long-term planning success.

On the worry side, I do hope that Social Security and Medicare reform will happen sooner rather than later to make sure that the programs can remain sustainable over the long-term horizon.

Pictured: Wade Pfau

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