Schwab Defends App After Rival Exec Says It 'Sucks'

News May 22, 2024 at 05:34 PM
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What You Need To Know

  • The chief brokerage officer of competitor Robinhood recently criticized Schwab's mobile app.
  • Audited complaints have totaled about 55 per million converted accounts, Schwab says.
  • Investor services head Jonathan Craig likened the complaints to a BMW driver waking up to find a Mercedes in the garage.
A blue Charles Schwab logo shaped like a large puzzle piece is being fitted together with a green TD Ameritrade logo shaped like a puzzle piece

Charles Schwab & Co., facing criticism from a Robinhood executive and others that its investing app "sucks" and has disappointed clients picked up in the TD Ameritrade deal, indicated Wednesday that relationships with most former Ameritrade customers are going well.

The retail investor services leader at Schwab acknowledged what he described as a "very, very small" number of audited complaints received since the brokerage transitioned millions of TD Ameritrade client accounts to its platforms, saying the criticisms mostly reflect people's difficulties with change.

User Complaints

Many former Ameritrade customers whose assets migrated after Schwab acquired the firm in 2020, including a final group converted this month, have complained on social media that they preferred their old investing platform to Schwab's app.

They decry the Schwab app as unappealing and unintuitive in comparison, among other derogatory adjectives, saying it lacks features and performance they enjoyed at Ameritrade. Some indicated they have moved their assets from Schwab, or plan to do so.

The work "clunky" has come up in several posts on X, formerly Twitter. The r/Schwab Subreddit has a dedicated "Schwab Sucks" thread that has been active for seven months.

The chief brokerage officer of competitor Robinhood, Steve Quirk, told Dow Jones MarketWatch recently that his platform had gained some dissatisfied former Ameritrade customers from Schwab since the last client migration.

"TD Ameritrade had a decent mobile offering — Schwab's sucks, and they know it," Quirk, who previously worked at TD Ameritrade, told MarketWatch. "It's a concern, but you can't fix it that quickly."

Schwab Responds

At Schwab's Institutional Investor Conference on Wednesday, Jonathan Craig, managing director and investor services head, painted a more promising picture.

He said Schwab had fielded about 55 audited, written complaints per million converted accounts within the first four weeks after migration, excluding the client group that Schwab moved this month as it shuttered the old Ameritrade platform.

"I will tell you, as the head of retail … I can look at every single one, and I do look at every one," Craig said. "What the complaints tend to be, almost always, or most of the time, they're about change. Change is hard. People don't like change and that's understandable."

The complaints about change don't tend to be about the thinkorswim trading platform, which came with the Ameritrade acquisition, since there wasn't a change there, he explained. 

"It tends to be about the mobile app, because the mobile app is what many TDA clients use who don't use thinkorswim, and they're going from one experience, TDA mobile, to Schwab mobile," Craig said, comparing the situation to to a BMW driver waking up one day and finding a Mercedes in the garage and having difficulty figuring out where things are at first.

Craig also explained that "what Schwab does is far more significant from a capability standpoint than what Ameritrade did. So as you'd expect, our app, our web experiences are more comprehensive. We're also a lot larger."

Some former Ameritrade clients ask why Schwab doesn't just use the Ameritrade app, Craig noted, saying there are many reasons. If Schwab did that, "we'd have three times as many complaints on the blue (or Schwab) side."

Prior to conversions, Schwab's app and mobile experiences were rated highly, either at par with or better than those of TD Ameritrade, he added.

"We're getting a very, very small number of complaints," he said. "They tend to be about change, and yet at the same time, we are trying to take the best of what Ameritrade has and the best of what Schwab has. And we'll continue to make enhancements as we go."

Meanwhile, Schwab is seeing strong engagement from Ameritrade clients, attrition rates across all groups have come in well below expectations, and converted clients' behaviors "are very, very promising," Craig said. These clients have brought in about $60 billion since conversion, and there's a 99% retention rate among converted clients assigned to a financial consultant.

In addition, converted clients' adoption of Schwab's managed investing services has been "fantastic," with about $17 billion in asset inflows last year, he said.

After moving the last 1.8 million client accounts this month, Schwab has converted approximately 17 million accounts and about $1.8 trillion to $1.9 trillion in assets from TD Ameritrade over the course of the integration. That includes about 13 million retail accounts, according to statistics Craig presented at the conference.

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