Mercer's Magic Formula for Growing Assets Over 50% in 18 Months

Q&A May 21, 2024 at 01:33 PM
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Daniel Gourvitch

Daniel Gourvitch, the former BlackRock and Goldman Sachs executive who started his financial services career by moving through the ranks at McKinsey & Co., just wrapped up his first 18 months as president of Mercer Advisors.

Asked if his early tenure at Mercer has met his expectations, Gourvitch told ThinkAdvisor the answer is a clear "yes," noting it's also been a great time for the firm, too.

Client assets have grown to more than $60 billion while the advisor force has expanded to over 300 professionals, as of March 31. The combined level of assets under management and under advisement has jumped 57% since Gourvitch joined the RIA.

A good part of the growth stems from organic sales and market returns, but Mercer Advisors has also been highly active in acquisitions.

The firm has made some 85 acquisitions since inking its first deal back in 2016, including several big deals revealed so far this year alone. During Gourvitch's tenure, the total level of assets brought on via acquisitions is roughly $14 billion via 18 deals, ranging in size from $60 million to $2.5 billion.

Key to the successful acquisitions, Gourvitch explains, is identifying firms with like-minded leaders and advisors who are able to plug into Mercer and build their scalability.

Overall, he adds, Mercer's organic growth and its M&A success depend on the firm's differentiated approach to wealth management, which has been baked in since its founding in 1985: It unites in-house estate and tax planning capabilities with dedicated employee-advisors who focus mainly on serving existing clients, not on attracting new ones.

The RIA follows a multi-tiered service approach, which is focused on the expanding needs of wealthy and ultra-wealthy clients; its initial wealth-planning service has an asset minimum of $500,000.

In addition, the firm builds institutional-grade investment portfolios for individual families, according to Gourvitch, who points out that Mercer is a fully independent fiduciary: "It means we are committed to do what's in the best interest of our clients."

While he says there likely will always be a role for commission-based professionals in the world of wealth management, the jury is in that "full fiduciary is the way to go."

Here are some more highlights from our conversation:

THINKADVISOR: First, can you tell us about your time at McKinsey & Co.? Was financial services your focus there?

DANIEL GOURVITCH: I joined McKinsey straight out of college, but I was actually introduced to wealth management even earlier than that, because my dad worked in the space. That was at the time when many broker-dealers were coming together to form what are now the big wirehouses, which is an interesting bit of history.

When I joined McKinsey, they asked what topics I knew about and had an interest in. I shared that I knew something about wealth management from internship opportunities I had, as well as from speaking with my dad at the dining room table.

So, I started working with financial firms from the beginning, and it was an 11-year run working there at McKinsey. I led our wealth management practice there, and served UHNW-focused private banks, wirehouses, broker-dealers, TAMPs and investors in the space.

Most of my research and projects were about this central question of what does the wealth management customer really want and how can we deliver more value to them? Ironically, that wasn't actually a top-of-mind question for many firms focused mostly on sales or recruiting advisors.

My ongoing interest in the space really came from a desire to understand the actual value we [were] delivering to our wealth management customers, and how we [could] build firms that deliver more and more value to them every day.

Then it was on to a short stint at both BlackRock and Goldman Sachs before you landed at Mercer Advisors, right? 

Yes, after McKinsey I moved through BlackRock and Goldman. That period was about my pursuit of finding a home where I could be involved in building a wealth management firm that is unabashedly about delivering value to the client.

I tell this story a lot. I actually met Mercer Advisors' CEO Dave Welling at a dinner about two years ago and I went home and said to my wife, I'd like for us to be clients of this firm. It obviously turned into a lot more than that.

It was the service model that stood out to me. In my view, we have quite a distinct approach that focuses on delivering value for our clients and bringing the full set of the firm's capabilities to bear whenever the client needs it. The structure of our firm has a lot to do with that.

Everyone serving clients is an employee. We have a single P&L statement. We're not splitting revenues and profits across team members of offices and then asking them to collaborate. It means that we can genuinely match every client to the advisor who is best suited to work with them.

It means that, when something happens in a client's life, we can bring the best experts in our firm to bear, and that benefits everyone. It means that we can invest to build capabilities that benefit all of our clients, like including the cost of drafting foundational trusts, wills, health care directives and POAs for every client.

How have things changed in the wealth industry from your earlier days?

It's interesting, because the broader industry is evolving, but here at Mercer Advisors, we've been doing things this way since 1985. Mercer Advisors has been doing this fiduciary, planning-first work for a lot longer than people commonly think.

Our founder was a tax and estate attorney, so we've been integrating those elements into our services from Day 1. Our culture is rooted in this idea of being a "family office for your family." We've been doing this for decades, and we've navigated various cycles while sticking to that.

If you think about what clients are actually hiring us for, it's for help in navigating what is the highest-stakes and most complex financial system for families that exists anywhere in the developed world.  While that statement can sound political, it's just a fact that our financial system can be challenging to navigate.

What happens in that context is that clients want to know that their advisor is going to act as their trusted partner and guide.

One thing that has changed over time is the discussion about robo-advisors. If you remember, a decade or more ago, there was this big idea that robo-advisors would take over the world.

We wrote a paper back then saying, yes, technology is more important and remote delivery of wealth management services will be key — but we won't see robots taking over people's finances, not in this paradigm.

What trends are you seeing among high- and ultra-high-net-worth clients?

My view is that, at the core, what UHNW clients expect from their advisor and firm is not all that different from what any client expects — in the sense that they want a unification of their money and advice around their money. They want full visibility around investing, tax, estate planning and insurance.

Both markets have the appropriate expectation of having an advisor who is not a salesperson. Both groups expect, rightly so, that they will get institutional-grade investment portfolios that are delivering capabilities that are an order of magnitude more effective than doing it themselves. And, most important, they expect a true fiduciary relationship.

That said, when you get to the ultra-wealthy, the nature of the opportunities they have and the financial complexity they face does change quite a bit. I would point back to our team structure. When we serve these clients, we think about Mercer Advisors as a single collective.

We are making a multi-generation promise to those clients that will hopefully outlive any of us who work here today. And we're truly going to bring the full strength of the institution to bear for their benefit.

We've now grown larger than the Harvard endowment by size, for example, which gives us scale to do things in a differentiated and powerful way that even families with hundreds of millions of dollars might struggle to do for themselves.

Can you describe the service model for the wealthiest clients?

Taking a step back, I'd say that we have focused very much on making it possible to build a true family office approach for clients with $500,000 or more, so it's not just the ultra-wealthy we are focused on. How do you do that? Again, for us, it's about having that lead advisor being empowered to collaborate with other professionals in a team-based approach.

Then, for a client with $10 million or more, they typically move towards working with the Ascend or Regis groups, which are specialized teams for ultra-high-net worth clients. In those cases, clients have a team with a dedicated senior tax advisor, a dedicated senior estate strategist, a dedicated investment strategist and a coordinating wealth advisor.

The meeting frequency is also higher, and the availability of specialty investment solutions and lending solutions changes with wealth. For example, if you are a qualified purchaser, your access to quality private and alternative investments through our platform is equivalent to any large institutional investor.

Another interesting thing is how we go about serving multigenerational families. Often, we find that someone who is the lead client in a family says they want us to connect their second generation with their own advisors — but do so in a way that follows a set of protocols determined by the primary relationship.

It allows us to coordinate on things like tax, legacy planning and more, while respecting the unique dynamics that might exist within a family.

What do you think about the challenge of building scale in a consolidating wealth management market?

We're always very intentional and deliberate in terms of how we manage our firm. We feel a real sense of responsibility to steward the culture and not take any shortcuts. We've been quite deliberate about that in the way we have built the firm — to not pursue growth just for the sake of growth.

When we get bigger, we want to get better. We want to add more and more value for customers and the families we work with. It's about being a fiduciary day to day, but it's also about being a fiduciary in the way that we build and run the firm.

On a personal note, I feel great gratitude for the several generations of advisors who carried forward the fiduciary promise when it wasn't obvious. There are many of us who are benefiting from that history now, but there are many folks in this industry who have invested their time and effort and careers to get the industry to this point.

Pictured: Daniel Gourvitch

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