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Crager Opens Up on Challenges Facing Envestnet, Advisors

Q&A April 05, 2024 at 02:14 PM
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Bill Crager, Co-Founder and CEO, Envestnet

Bill Crager's decision to step down as CEO of Envestnet on March 31 raised lots of eyebrows throughout the wealth management industry.

Crager, 60, says the industry is in a process of "reshaping itself," and he predicts that part of this metamorphosis will be the emergence of "super-sized advisors with super-RIAs," according to an April 1 interview with ThinkAdvisor. 

"The financial advisor has never had a bigger opportunity. It's a very good time to be a financial advisor who's offering … holistic advice …," he explains.

Plus, he gives insights into Envestnet's strategy over the past few years, which had hurt the firm's stock price. (Its shares are up nearly 17% so far this year, after dropping roughly 20% in 2023).  

The turnkey asset management provider has about $5.8 trillion in platform assets and serves more than 108,000 advisors.

Crager, who co-founded the firm with Jud Bergman in 1999, was formerly head of Envestnet Wealth Solutions. He became interim CEO and then the firm's ongoing CEO in March 2020, following the death of Bergman and his wife, Mary Miller-Bergman, in a car crash in October 2019.

Here are excerpts from our interview:

THINKADVISOR: Why did you move out of the role of CEO?

BILL CRAGER: I love the company. [But] I want to do more of what I love to do: think about the future of how our industry can support more and more people and in a more holistic way.

I want to spend a lot more time helping drive what I see very clearly as to where the industry is headed vs. trying to operate a company. I'm focused on the bigger picture. The power of being able to do that because of the transition is extraordinary.

You're now a senior advisor. What exactly is that job?

I'm still working for the company. I want to play a role in where we all go from here. But I won't be burdened by the operating demands of a regulated-fiduciary-investor world. 

What are the biggest challenges for Envestnet, and how do you see the firm resolving them?

The company needs to execute on the strategy that's been laid down [using] the capabilities it has. We have the right team in place. The infrastructure is, kind of, set. It's very much an execution challenge vs. creating and building the next frontier.

Please comment on Envestnet's poor stock performance last year.

Over the last few years, we invested aggressively to bring our data and technology environment into a connected orientation. We acquired businesses [to] move data to the cloud, integrate the technology pieces and to choose the next generation of leadership for the company.

As we did that, we intentionally brought down our EBITDA — cash flow. We communicated that to investors and executed exactly to the plan we sent them.

What happened to upset that?

Over the same period, we had an interest rate environment that became trickier — money became more expensive — and that wasn't well received when it came to Envestnet, because we had less cash flow in a higher rate environment.

That's it: There was a macro theme playing out while we were affecting our strategic plan, which we successfully implemented.

How is Envestnet's health today?

The company is incredibly well positioned to go forward. That's why I decided to step down when I did. We successfully did the work we had to do. Time for the next chapter.

There's speculation that the firm will sell Yodlee, the data aggregation business it acquired, which last year caused a write-off of roughly $190 million. Any truth to those rumors?

I can't comment on that in any way other than to say that when you think about the future of people's financial lives, that's financial planning. Whether you do all of that or outsource some of it, those are questions for the company going forward.

What do you see as the role of advisor in the next 5-10 years?

The financial advisor has never had a bigger opportunity. It's a very good time to be a financial advisor who's offering planning-based holistic advice because money is poorly served:

You get a bank statement, credit card bill, direct deposit of your paycheck. You have investments, your 401(k), a financial plan. They're all separate business models that haven't been connected to one another. 

My thesis is that they can be connected to serve the client and their family in a much different way going forward. The person in the best position to do that is the trusted financial advisor.

How will artificial intelligence help advisors?

AI enables advisors to deliver more to clients. It's a tool, not a threat.

Broadly, what do you think the future holds for the industry?

It will go more and more toward a holistic financial life. Getting our industry to interconnect in a deeper way will unlock the future.

I want to connect the way people are making financial decisions each day to where they want to be in 10-20 years. 

What do you see as the short- to mid-term future of wealth management?

The industry is reshaping itself. The landscape has [changed] from the towers of the large wirehouses, who still lead the market, to a much more diverse skyline [including] medium and small-sized buildings. Those firms now have the same degree of capability that [wirehouses] have.

What has been the biggest challenge to financial advisors while you were CEO?

We've moved from a very product-oriented mindset to more of a fiduciary mindset. And the planning strategies are far more complex.

The challenge is to make the leap from understanding the products to understanding [clients'] personal financial needs and aspirations really well.

How do Envestnet and other TAMPs address big trends and changes in wealth management?

Smaller firms are going to be consolidated into the bigger firms. The real innovation is about integration, not the next whiz-bang feature that's being created.

For example, it's about accessing alternative investments, insurance,  traditional investments, 401(k)s from the same [integrated space].

You do this in a way so that you can just press a button and see it all in one place. That's the advice proposition, and it's going to take a big firm with a lot of scale to do it. 

How will smaller firms make out, then?

You'll see advisors that will grow to become super-sized advisors with super-RIAs. You'll have specialists that will zero in on one capability. They'll be cash-flow specialists, for instance.

What's the most significant shift in the business that you've witnessed overall?

Technology changed the competitive landscape completely. The internet and the cloud changed everything: [Before], you had to go through the front door of a very large firm that had the infrastructure to do what an advisor can do today.

Now you can work in any [channel] and access the same [technology]. I've had a front-row seat and probably engineered  a lot of the disruptive nature of technology.

What do you consider your biggest achievement as CEO?

I'm most proud of having changed the nature of the advice that can be provided from access-to-product to something that's much more holistic around a person's financial life. We changed the landscape of advice.

That opens the door for advisors to become much more valuable and to grow their businesses in a broader way.  My focus has been understanding the future, then architecting that and getting people to deliver on it. 

What's the top leadership lesson you've learned?

To get people to build the future, there has to be a way to lead them toward it and to have excitement, passion and purpose behind it. I think I've been able to engender that for a long period of time — to get [folks] really jazzed about how we change the ways people engage in their financial lives.

You were appointed Envestnet's CEO in March 2020, after being named interim CEO right after Jud Bergman's death in October 2019. To what extent did you enjoy running the company? 

That's a tricky question. I stepped into that role because of unique circumstances. Jud Bergman and I decided to start Envestnet and built the business over 20 years. Jud was CEO [and chair]. In 2019 he and his wife were killed in a tragic accident.

I can't say I loved getting the job [of CEO] — Jud and I were always going to work together closely. I loved him like a brother.

We'd talked for a long time about what we had to do with the business to get ourselves to that quote-unquote Promised Land. That was the job. We've done that work. The page turns here. 

From your vantage point, what does your successor need to know?

Going forward, the company will require a focused execution and operating environment. That's a skill set the next person is going to bring to the table.

                         

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