Some could accuse contrarian value investor John Buckingham of being a permabull. But Buckingham, the astute stock picker and Kovitz wealth management principal and portfolio manager, always has solid reasons to be bullish.
Forecasting 2024: The prior two years haven't been favorable for stocks — and that makes him optimistic.
"Anybody who thinks that stocks will not appreciate next year is super-bearish," Buckingham, who expects an overall market return of 9% to 10% amid high volatility, says in an interview with ThinkAdvisor.
Buckingham is looking for a 15% return for value stocks next year, partly because "it's been a couple of lousy years for value." About his loyal preference for value investing: "I'd rather be looking at businesses I want to partner with for the long term instead of having the 'greater fool mindset.'"
Another reason for his bullishness: The fourth year of a U.S. presidency has historically been the second-best year for the stock market, he argues.
Buckingham's stock picks for 2024 are guided by seven themes he has created. They include "The World Is a Dangerous Place" and "Intelligent Ways to Play AI."
Buckingham, editor of the newsletter The Prudent Speculator — published for the past 46 years — oversees $750 million of Kovitz's $7.5 billion assets under management.
He has managed the Al Frank Fund (VALAX) from its 1998 inception. Through Nov. 7, it has had an annualized return of 9.62%. That compares to the Russell 3000 Index with a return of 7.05%.
In the recent phone interview with Buckingham, who was speaking from his office in Aliso Viejo, California, he says he anticipates real GDP growth to come in at only 1% in 2024 with a possible "mild recession." Here are highlights of our interview:
THINKADVISOR: What's your forecast for the market in 2024?
It will be positive for stocks.
[But] volatility will remain escalated. I've been watching the markets for 36 years now, and seldom have I seen the kinds of moves in individual stocks that we're seeing these days — both on the upside and downside.
Lots of scary things have occurred [this year] and will continue to occur. My view is not to get scared out of stocks — the headlines will always have some reason why you shouldn't be invested.
What's your expectation for the U.S. economy in 2024?
A mild recession, but I don't think it will lead to an earnings contraction for companies.
The wild card is [the Ukraine and the Israel-Hamas wars].
Please talk about some of your top stock picks for 2024 in random order. You believe in broad diversification and have seven different investing themes. One is "The World Is a Dangerous Place."
The U.S. is arming Ukraine, and a lot of munitions are being used up. So defense contractors, like Lockheed Martin and General Dynamics, are two companies that are likely to get substantial business as arsenals are replenished.
What's going on in the Middle East relates to the price of oil. The U.S. is one or two events away from being dragged into [the Israel-Hamas war], and there are all sorts of issues that could send the price of oil skyrocketing. So investing in fossil fuel companies still makes sense.
But what about the rise of electric car sales?
The transition from internal combustion-engine vehicles to electric will be measured in decades, not years. And we're still going to need plenty of oil in the developing parts of the world.
EOG Resources is an exploration and development company that I like. It has a significant dividend and, on top of that, special dividends when the price of oil is high.
One reason you invest in dividend-paying companies is not for the yield you get today but because, over time, the yield increases.
So there's the opportunity to generate income that will keep up with inflation.
On the oil refining and marketing side, HF Sinclair makes and sells products such as gasoline. Internal combustion cars will clearly be in need of gas.
So energy is something that investors should consider.
Another of your themes is "Health Care Temporarily in the Sick Bay." Which stocks have you picked?
Pharmaceutical stocks and health management companies have been hit pretty hard this year. But over time, pharmaceutical companies generally grow at a faster rate than inflation.
We're living longer, so demographics favor our requiring greater health-care coverage going forward.
Pfizer, one of the COVID-19 vaccines makers, has a very inexpensive P/E ratio and a generous dividend yield. It's attractive because it's been a horrible performer this year. A lot of that was because the COVID business has been falling off faster than people had thought.
We always thought it was just a bonus.
On the managed care side, CVS Health, which owns Aetna in addition to pharmacies, has a single-digit P/E and continues to grow earnings, and that won't stop going forward.
Valuation-wise, it deserves a higher multiple, and the underlying earnings are likely to grow.
Your theme for the tech sector is "Intelligent Ways to Play AI." What are they?
Part of the promise of AI is trumped by the companies that produce the "picks and shovels." Think: the Gold Rush [of the 1800s].
To get to the AI Gold Rush, businesses have to invest to upgrade their computers. They have to power the super computers that are going to deliver all of this great, promising AI technology.
Here are two companies that are "picks and shovels":
Power management company Eaton isn't as inexpensively priced as some of the other stocks I'm talking about, but they're going to be in tremendous demand.
The AI revolution and the next generation of computing technology will require more and more power to fuel the actual computing that AI needs.
And as companies invest in the new tech, they need data centers; that is, big warehouses for all the computers. Digital Realty, a data center REIT, will benefit from that.
You also own some super-size tech companies. Right?
We've sold some Microsoft and some Apple, but they're still our two largest holdings. We've peeled a little bit more off because of risk mitigation, and valuations aren't as cheap today as they were way back when we bought these two.
We also continue to have exposure to Google and Meta, even though they've done extraordinarily well this year.
A way that you might participate in the next big technological [breakthrough] is by investing in businesses that have profited from [them] in the past and are at the forefront of whatever the next big thing will be.