How Joe Duran Plans to Boost RIAs' Growth

News September 15, 2023 at 05:23 PM
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Former United Capital founder and CEO Joe Duran is looking to launch his new venture, Rise Growth Partners, with a small number of registered investment advisors in early 2024 and is already starting to consider which RIA firms to include in the second round, he told ThinkAdvisor in a phone interview on Friday.

As disclosed by Duran at the Future Proof conference in Huntington Beach, California, on Monday, Rise represents his return to the RIA sector and is looking to take minority stakes in RIA firms with assets under management of $1 billion to $5 billion each.

The venture's goal is to make these firms into national RIAs with $10 billion or more in AUM. If an RIA selected by Rise grows to that level and then wants to sell to a larger firm, Rise will facilitate such a deal, Duran said Friday.

"If everything goes as we'd like, it'll be very early, like January-February," when the first group of RIAs will launch, he said.

"We're coordinating right now," he said, noting "we have an amazing group of … over 30 [RIA] firms that are currently in various stages of discussion" with Rise. The first group of RIAs will be "super important so we've been highly, highly selective with our first group," he told ThinkAdvisor.

"We're self-funding right now … but we obviously have to line [up] the capital to make the investments in the underlying advisory firms and we need to make sure that we've got the right partner" to invest with, Duran said.

To that end, he said: "We're having conversations as we speak with some of the really finest private equity investors in the country, and we've had a lot of interest, which is great. But we're being as selective with our investors [as] we're being with the folks we invest in."

So far, "we've spoken to, I'd say, more than a handful" of potential investors "but not as many as two handfuls," he said with a laugh.

During "fireside chats" with potential investment partners, Rise is trying to make sure its  strategy is one they would be interested in and then "also making sure there is a cultural fit with our team," he explained.

"A lot of the firms we're speaking to want to get into the wealth category, are really uncomfortable with evaluations for those platform firms, and really like the idea of a diversified portfolio of high-growth, emerging RIAs. But it's not for everyone," he conceded.

The company's plan is to continue to have those discussions through September, he said. Then, "around October," Rise plans to "hand-select the firms that we think are most aligned to meet with a management team, get very deep in the model, understand exactly what we're doing and then start reviewing some of the firms that we're likely to do something with," he explained.

"We have had just an overwhelming response" so far, he added.

In 2019, Duran sold United Capital to Goldman Sachs for $750 million; the RIA was rebranded Goldman Sachs Personal Financial Management.

"We believe that exceptional advisors need better capital solutions," Rise Growth Partners says on its website.

Duran stepped down early this year as a Goldman Sachs partner and co-head of its Personal Financial Management Group. Goldman recently announced the sale of the unit to Creative Planning for an undisclosed sum.

Pictured: Joe Duran

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