Here's Why RIAs Should Add Banking Services: Flourish CEO

Q&A September 07, 2023 at 04:42 PM
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Independent registered investment advisors should offer products to defend against wirehouses and robo-advisors who are "looking to steal their clients by offering banking solutions to get a foothold," says Max Lane, CEO of Flourish, a technology platform that is a subsidiary of MassMutual.

RIAs are "facing stiff competition from wirehouses" who are "using their core banking products as lead generation into the wealth management division," Lane contends.

To counter that move, Flourish, which provides RIAs with tools designed to serve clients holistically, is offering banking-like products, such as a cash management brokerage account, Flourish Cash, that "puts clients' [money sitting on the sidelines] within the RIA's purview," Lane says.

This allows RIAs to "gather net assets from their existing clients" to, eventually, invest.

Cash balances in Flourish Cash are "swept from the brokerage account to deposit account(s) at one or more third-party banks," according to Flourish disclosures.

The firm works with more than 600 independent RIA firms that manage a total of more than $1.5 trillion in assets.

This year, the Flourish Cash client base more than doubled to total $3 billion in assets under custody.

Launched in 2018 and based in New York City, Flourish was acquired by MassMutual in 2021.

A year and a half later, Lane, who started out on the international private equity services team at UBS and was with Flourish since its creation in 2017, was appointed CEO.

Ben Cruikshank, former head of Flourish, was named president.

The year of the acquisition, Flourish introduced what Lane describes as "another important tool" with which "to arm advisors": Flourish Crypto.

In the interview, he indicates the extent of his RIA clients' interest in cryptocurrency as well as the broad industry's attitude toward the currency.

ThinkAdvisor recently interviewed Lane, who was speaking by phone from Boston.

He is closemouthed about the next product from Flourish but revealed where it sees "the biggest opportunity" and specifically that it is "closely looking at the insurance" category.

"Insurance is a big category where RIAs don't have great solutions to best serve their clients," says Lane, who runs an organization owned by the life insurer ranked No. 1 in innovation on Fortune's Most Admired Companies list for 2023.

Here are excerpts from our interview:

THINKADVISOR: You describe Flourish Cash as a held-away cash management solution for independent RIAs and their clients. What advantages and benefits does it bring to advisors?

MAX LANE: Our mission is for RIAs to holistically serve their clients, and [part of that is to] offer banking-like products because they're facing stiff competition from wirehouses and robos that are looking to steal their clients by offering banking solutions to get a foothold with these clients.

How widespread is this?

We've seen these common strategies to acquire customers and eventually steal clients from RIAs.

[In 2021] Merrill Lynch announced that they're [banning trainee advisors] from cold calling. They said they're going to get all their leads from [owner] Bank of America [or from LinkedIn].

So wirehouses, [ML for example], are really using their core banking products as lead generation into the wealth management division.

Why don't independent RIAs create banking-like products themselves instead of getting them from firms like yours?

Independent RIAs aren't affiliated with large institutions like a wirehouse, bank or insurance company is. They hang out their own shingle.

They don't have the same resources as the big wirehouses when it comes to the amount of product they can offer.

Nor do they have the war chest to invest in technology, like [venture capital-backed] robos, which are also increasingly looking at banking-like products.

So independent RIAs need a partner like Flourish to help bring them these tools to make sure clients are getting a full-service advisor — and that the RIAs aren't leaving themselves open for an opportunity for strong competitors like the wirehouses and robos.

Tell me more about Flourish Cash's features.

It was built to arm RIAs with a held-away cash solution that they could bring to their end clients to help them earn higher yields and get higher FDIC insurance.

After Labor Day, our highest yield is expected to go up to 5%, and the FDIC insurance coverage we'll be offering will be $2.5 million for individual and business accounts, and $5 million for joint accounts.

What's the upshot for the advisors?

A big part of what Flourish is trying to do is put more end-client assets within the RIAs' purview to deliver holistic planning.

As they uncover this cash, over time they can have conversations with clients, and slowly, some of that money from bank accounts will make its way into the portfolio.

So advisors are really gathering net assets from their existing clients.

Don't most RIAs think they're aware of all the assets owned by each of their clients?

From the hundreds of conversations I've had, advisors always believe they have every dollar of their clients' wealth.

But after they start using Flourish Cash, they're always surprised at how much money is sitting on the sidelines — money that's not in the advisor's purview.

They either don't know it exists or can't see it — and therefore can't manage it.

How has Flourish Cash been performing as a component of your business?

It has a lot of tailwinds behind it when we think about rising interest rates that have taken off over the past 12 months and that we've all been reminded of the importance of FDIC insurance when we look back at some of the bank turmoil earlier this year.

What's the significance of the Flourish platform being directly integrated with Redtail Technology's client relationship management software solution?

Redtail makes it really easy for RIAs to integrate their existing CRM data they have on their clients and also send out Flourish Cash invites.

Clients can be onboarded to Flourish Cash and start earning that great rate — and be kept away from those big, scary wirehouse competitors.

Please tell me about Flourish Crypto.

It's a turnkey crypto investing solution built from the ground up for advisors that we brought to market in 2021.

We give them flexibility around transfers, trading, billing, integration — everything they need so that crypto isn't a held-away asset; it's part of their practice and incorporated into the RIA client relationship.

Why did you introduce Flourish Crypto?

In 2020 and 2021, RIAs were getting an increasing [number] of questions from end clients about crypto and if they should be making investments in it. But RIAs didn't' have a good solution [to do that].

So we decided to arm our advisors with another important tool to help them holistically.

How popular is crypto now among RIAs and their clients?

About 80 of the more than 600 firms working with us are signed up for Flourish Crypto.

What do you think lies ahead for crypto?

The future of crypto remains to be seen. We're at a crossroads where there has certainly been an increase in regulatory scrutiny of the industry in the U.S. over the past 12 months.

Collectively, the wealth management industry is in a wait-and-see mode when it comes to crypto.

What changed about Flourish when MassMutual acquired it in 2021?

We're owned by another company now, but our core mission of connecting advisors to all parts of their clients' financial lives so they can provide financial security to them remains the same.

From a day-to-day perspective of how we operate, serve and the value we're looking to bring clients, nothing has changed.

So two years after the acquisition, we've proven that we're still committed to the independent RIA channel and looking to help them round out their product shelf to best serve their clients beyond the core stock-and-bond portfolio.

Was your being appointed Flourish CEO connected to the acquisition?

It happened [18 months] after that.

Some background: In around 2017, Flourish was spawned out of an asset management firm. It came to market in 2018.

When Flourish was sold to MassMutual, there was a change in leadership because previously the leaders of the asset management firm were overseeing Flourish.

After everything was settled in the acquisition deal, I was very fortunate to be asked to lead the company.

What's coming next from Flourish?

We're not ready to publicly give too much detail. But the categories where we see the biggest opportunity to help RIAs and their end clients are the non-stock-and-bond portfolio areas.

Insurance is a big category where RIAs don't have great solutions to best serve their clients.

That's one [area] we're looking at closely in addition to a couple of other categories.

Pictured: Max Lane

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