Yale Prof: Why Wealthy Clients Chase Performance; What Personal Finance Gurus Get Right

Q&A June 08, 2023 at 05:03 PM
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"Over the past 15 years, value stocks have had lower returns than growth stocks," argues James Choi, finance professor at the Yale School of Management, in an interview with ThinkAdvisor. "We just may be in a new era where value stocks will permanently have lower average returns than growth."

That speculation is prompted, in part, by a survey of 2,484 high- and ultra-high-net-worth investors — UBS clients — that Choi conducted, showing that value stocks have "both lower expected returns and lower risk."

Investors surveyed for "Millionaires Speak: "What Drives Their Personal Investment Decisions?" (Journal of Financial Economics, October 2022) had at least $1 million of investable assets — 18% had at least $5 million and 4% had at least $10 million.

The study found that the investors believe that a professional investment manager they identify as having superior stock-picking skills will bring them higher returns and that he or she can perform better than the average active manager has for the last several years.

They judge active managers by their track record and believe those who have been high performing will persist in delivering such returns.

But Choi, co-director of the Retirement and Disability Research Center at the National Bureau of Economic Research, points out in the interview: "The evidence that active strategies actually return more than passive strategies is scant.

"[The respondents] think that they're going to do better, but they probably don't," he says.

Another recent paper Choi wrote, "Popular Personal Financial Advice Versus the Professors" (Journal of Financial Economics, August 2022), shows that "popular advice frequently departs form [standard] principles determined from economic theory," as the professor maintains in the interview.

This study looks at 50 personal finance books, including some written by David Bach, Robert Kiyosaki, Suze Orman, Dave Ramsey and Burton Malkiel.

"Popular advice is sometimes driven by fallacies, but it tries to take into account the limited willpower individuals have to stick to a financial plan," Choi writes.

There are indeed several divergencies between the authors and the professors.

Choi comments on where the authors are more likely to be correct and where the professors are apt to have it right.

ThinkAdvisor recently held a phone interview with Choi, who was speaking from New Haven, Connecticut.

He says that as shown in the "Millionaires Speak" survey, rich investors are "certainly influenced" by financial advisors because they're paying for their expertise.

But when it comes to active investing, "it doesn't necessarily matter how well [or subpar] the average active manager did — [they believe that] they can do better than the average."

Here are excerpts from our interview:

THINKADVISOR: From your survey of 2,484 UBS wealthy investor clients, "Millionaires Speak: What Drives Their Personal Investment Decisions," value stocks are thought to have "both lower expected returns and lower risk." Is that surprising to you?

JAMES CHOI: Yes and no. The puzzle is that historically, value stocks have had higher average returns than growth stocks, but over the past 15 years, value stocks have actually had lower returns than growth.

That's a real break from the trend over [previous] decades. So we just may be in a new era where value stocks will permanently have lower average returns than growth stocks.

Your research shows that 33% of the respondents describe advice from a professional financial advisor as very or extremely important.

So, do these high-net-worth folks respect financial advisors?

I don't know if they respect them, but they certainly are influenced by them.

Not even a majority of people have the expertise nor time to devote to learning about personal financial matters.

Therefore people pay a lot of money to financial advisors to get [expert] advice. Is it any surprise, given the sheer amount of money that's spent on advisory services, that people might actually listen to what they're told?

Nearly half of the respondents have invested in an active investment strategy through a fund or professional manager, your research says. The "most common reasons are professional advice and the expectation that they'll earn higher average returns." How does that jibe with reality?

The evidence that active strategies actually return more than passive strategies is scant. So that's the interesting tension: The [respondents] think they're going to do better, but they probably don't.

The research shows, similarly, that "a significant amount of active investing through funds by the wealthy is driven by a belief that they can identify managers who will deliver superior unconditional average returns. Past fund-manager performance is seen as strong evidence of stock-picking skill."

Does that mean these investors tend to make decisions based on a manager's track record?

The pattern of response suggests that they just look at how well the person has done in the past and will chase the returns of those managers who had high [returns].

In most of life's domains, it's a pretty good rule of thumb that if somebody does really well in something, chances are they're going to keep on doing pretty well in the future [known as "persistence"].

But investing is one of the rare domains in life where that doesn't hold.

Don't wealthy investors know that, or don't their advisors tell them?

I think they don't. The advisors have an incentive to appear as if they're adding value.

So if they say, "I can tell you which [manager] is hot now, and you should move your money over to them," it feels like a value-add versus just [staying with] the same old "boring" [approach] of keeping [money] in an index fund every year.

Because the investors [have the attitude]: "Why am I paying you 1%, Mr. or Ms. Advisor?," [the financial advisor] has got to say something.

Your research shows an "area of significant divergence" over the issue of "return to scale." Please explain that.

There's no persistence in mutual fund return performance over time: The theory goes that when a manager has a high past return, that indicates they have good stock-picking skill, and therefore more money rushes into their fund.

But the more money the manager has to invest, the harder it is to beat the market because they have to start moving a lot of money around, there's price impact, and it's harder to be nimble at finding good deals.

[Thus], you can have a scenario where totally rational people are chasing these past returns.

Active management in general hasn't been doing well for the last several years. Are millionaire investors aware of this?

[To them], it doesn't necessarily matter how well the average active manager did — [they believe that] they can do better than the average.

Relatively few respondents point to a lack of trust in "market participants" [managers, advisors — anyone they're dealing with in investing], your research shows. Why is that?

Discomfort in the market is something you see a lot more of in the general population: People think they're going to be cheated out of their money by market participants.

Maybe it's not surprising that people who have a fair amount of money feel like they're less likely to get taken advantage of and are more trusting of the advice and services available to them — that they're able to obtain good advice from the professional sector.

But if you look at FINRA's BrokerCheck, overall there's a shockingly high percentage of financial advisors that have been [cited] for misconduct against their clients.

"Lack of a trustworthy advisor" and religion are described as very or extremely important by 15% of respondents. How did religion get into this study?

That's one of the puzzles that came out of the paper. It was really unexpected.

I think there's a preexisting body of research that finds that Catholics have riskier investments than Protestants.

There's speculation that it has something to do with anti-gambling norms present in some Protestant denominations.

But this is a mystery that I'd love to know more about.

Let's turn to your paper, "Popular Personal Financial Advice Versus the Professors" (August 2022, Journal of Economic Perspectives). Both sides say, "Invest only in passive index funds." However, as you write, "popular advice frequently departs from [standard] principles determined from economic theory."

For instance, the books say, "Save 10%-15% of income regardless of age and circumstances during working life. Don't annuitize."

But academic advice is: "Smooth consumption over time. [Have a] low or negative savings rate when young, high rate in midlife. Fully annuitize wealth in retirement."

What's "consumption smoothing"?

It means that you're better off having a fairly consistent level of spending from year to year rather than overindulging in certain periods of life and scrimping in others.

Many financial advisors say that people should start saving for retirement in their 20s because compounding is powerful. Please comment.

That's the conventional advice from the personal finance books as well. Basically everybody in the personal finance book space gives advice consistent with what you just said and not with what the economic models say.

So that's a very striking divergence.

Who's right?

It depends to a large degree on what your view of human nature is. The personal finance authors would say that saving is like a virtue — a habit that you practice.

Whereas, as I write in the paper, "economic theory targets an optimal consumption rate each period … savings rates should, on average, be low or negative early in life, high in midlife and negative during retirement.

"[So] the policy of a default retirement savings-plan contribution rate that does not depend on age is suboptimal."

About portfolio equity share, personal financial authors recommend: "Hold money that might be spent in short term entirely in cash. Money that won't be spent in short term may be invested in equities."

But the professors say: "Invest money that will fund near-term consumption more conservatively than money that will fund consumption far in the future."

Are people misled by personal finance books, then?

On the investing side, the professors are probably more likely to be correct than the popular authors.

Based on a lot of research that's been done on investments and stock returns, the right strategy has a lot less to do with human nature and psychology.

But the popular authors have a greater chance of being correct when it comes to questions about saving over your lifetime — the notion of living within your means, being prudent.

That's something you can't really pick up for the first time in midlife, or it's very hard to do so.

(Pictured: James Choi)

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