FTX Fallout Will Benefit Crypto in the Long Run: Bitwise CIO

Q&A January 03, 2023 at 04:59 PM
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Look for the fallout from the collapse of Sam Bankman-Fried's FTX crypto exchange to "cause some professional [crypto] investors to sit on the sidelines for a period of time," Matt Hougan, chief investment officer of Bitwise Asset Management, creator of the world's first and largest crypto index fund, tells ThinkAdvisor in an interview.

"It's a Bernie Madoff-level scam," is how Hougan describes the FTX fiasco, which, he says, will also cause some large firms without a crypto strategy to "slow down platform approval for a period."

However, long-term effects will be positive, he argues: For one, crypto investors are now likely to conduct due diligence before they turn over their assets to unregulated entities domiciled outside the U.S.

Where do financial advisors enter this picture?

"A financial advisor should have such a key role in managing crypto investments for clients," Hougan says.

Bitwise clients are mostly financial advisors and family offices. The firm also onboards high-net-worth individuals on a case-by-case basis.

According to Hougan, who joined Bitwise soon after its 2017 launch, FTX's implosion will "speed up the process of adding regulations … to the crypto market."

Bitwise, one of the world's largest crypto asset managers, was founded specifically to create the world's first crypto index fund, the Bitwise 10 Crypto Index Fund.

Today, that fund (OTCQX: BITW) boasts assets of $337 million.

The firm's assets under management totaled $1.3 billion as of year-end 2021, the most recent date for which such information is available.

In the interview, Hougan explains what the crypto industry is today ("massively more robust, significantly stronger") and what crypto is not ("a competitor to the dollar").

Hougan — who was CEO of Inside ETFs, managing director of global finance at Informa and CEO of ETF.com before joining Bitwise — also explores why tax loss harvesting "works better with crypto than anything else."

ThinkAdvisor interviewed Hougan on Dec. 14. He was speaking from Bitwise headquarters in San Francisco.

"Crypto is the future," he declares, because "it will reshape how finance works, how money works, how technology and the digital world work."

Here are highlights of our conversation:

THINKADVISOR: What's your reaction to the Sam Bankman-Fried FTX scandal?

MATT HOUGAN: It's pretty crazy. From everything we're hearing, it appears that it was almost a Day One fraud. A shocking development.

Often you see fraud take the form of someone making a mistake, covering it over and then digging the hole until it's too deep.

But with this one, there seems to be a fair amount of intent.

What does it all mean to the crypto market in the future?

In the short term, it's bad. It destroyed a lot of trust. I think it's going to cause some professional investors to sit on the sidelines for a period of time. It's a Bernie Madoff-level scam.

But I think the long-term impact would be positive because it will push people to more regulated, trustworthy institutions instead of parking assets with unregulated offshore exchanges [like FTX], which was domiciled in the Bahamas.

Investors should be looking to work with regulated U.S.-domiciled entities that have been around for a while.

What other positive impact will it have?

It's going to speed up the process of adding regulations and regulatory clarity to the crypto market. Crypto needs that if it's going to fulfill its full potential impact on the world.

Where exactly does the crypto industry stand today?

Crypto has had a lot of negative headlines recently, but the industry is massively more robust, massively more institutional, significantly more regulated and significantly stronger. And the technology has improved a lot.

Some consumers feel that the industry is anti-regulation. Any truth to that?

It's not true. Those of us who think that crypto will reshape significant portions of how the world works know that it can do so only within a regulatory framework.

You're going to see real progress in crypto regulation; and that, in turn, is going to help build the mainstream applications that people are hoping for.

Bankman-Fried reportedly kept no records. All he used was QuickBooks, small-business accounting software. How does one evaluate these companies up front?

You need to ask some basic questions: How are you regulated? Are you audited? How are clients' assets separated? Who's the custodian? Where are the assets domiciled?

If you had asked those common-sense questions about FTX, you would have found that it's located in the Bahamas. It's not audited. It doesn't have a board. It has a relatively short history in the market. That would have raised some red flags.

But clients don't necessarily know the right questions to ask. Financial advisors do. Where do financial advisors fit into the scenario?

A financial advisor should play such a key role in managing crypto investments for clients.

Do you think any of them asked those questions when dealing with FTX?

Many of them did. But I don't think many financial advisors have clients with assets, which they knew about, that were on FTX.

That's not how advisors are giving exposure to crypto. They're working with firms like Bitwise.

Many people want to know: "Why do we need crypto in the first place? Why do we need another form of money?" What are your thoughts about that?

A lot of people who say, "Why do we need this new form of money?" are thinking of crypto as a competitor to the dollar. That's not what it is.

Crypto and public blockchains are disruptive technologies that let you move money, digital property — all financial goods — at the speed of the internet and [allow] you [to] have digital property rights.

These are enormous ideas, and the proof that crypto works in delivering these capabilities is unassailable and stronger every day versus 2016-2018.

The reality is that money is one of the slowest-moving things in our society. If you buy a stock, for example, it takes a few days to settle.

And it's pretty astonishing that when you pay a bill online, it takes five days to get to the account. That's ridiculous.

Blockchain can solve these problems?

The only way it's been proven to make financial goods move at the speed of the internet is through blockchain technology. That's a fundamental advance.

The financial industry has become too big and bloated. Crypto and blockchain are the only way to introduce [speed] and efficiency.

Please talk more about digital property rights.

Blockchain is the only way you can have real digital property rights. The world is moving in an increasingly digital fashion.

Unless we want Apple, Microsoft and Facebook [Meta Platforms] to be the only ones to get to record data and to trust with our digital property forever, public blockchains, such as ethereum, are the only viable alternatives.

There are many ways to invest in crypto. You've introduced a separately managed account. What are the big pluses to using an SMA for crypto investing?

The industry has really matured in terms of the spectrum of offerings, and you can now get your crypto in whatever flavor you like.

SMAs fit well into the practice management approach of many large advisors who are using SMAs. That's the overarching thing.

And you have individual custody over your assets as opposed to a pooled vehicle — that appeals to some.

You can do things like tax loss harvesting within the portfolio.

So the benefits of a crypto SMA are very similar to those of an equity SMA.

Why is tax loss harvesting with crypto a good opportunity for financial advisors?

Advisors need something to talk about with their clients and show how they're adding value. Tax loss harvesting is one of those things.

Clients already do that in their stock portfolios; they should do it in crypto as well. In fact, it works better in crypto than anything else because it's so volatile.

Please elaborate.

Crypto has been the best-performing asset class in the world over the last 10 years; [but] in that period, it has had something like a 50-70% pullback.

A financial advisor can help clients by engaging in tax loss harvesting in years where the market has pulled back.

There's nothing you can do about the fact that bitcoin is down substantially from its high, but advisors can help clients by harvesting those losses and reinvesting that capital.

Any other ideas about crypto and tax loss harvesting?

Many clients hold crypto away from their advisor relationships. The advisor may manage their stock and bond portfolios, but a lot of advisors have clients who have their own crypto investments.

So an advisor can say to those clients: "You might want to think about tax loss harvesting."

Several large firms don't have a crypto strategy. With the collapse of FTX, do you think they'll move more slowly to put one in place?

The FTX news will slow down [crypto] platform approval for a period of time.

However, most advisors can gain access to crypto one way or the other, whether it's funds that directly hold bitcoin or ETFs that hold crypto infrastructure companies.

Access to bitcoin has been one of the biggest things that's changed over the last couple of years. About two years ago, it was hard to find a regional BD that had any crypto investments to provide.

Now many [companies] have at least one solution available for their wealth managers.

So firms are much further along than they were in the past. The number of national account platforms that we're on has tripled in the past year.

Your website headlines: "Crypto is the future." To sum up, why do you believe that?

I'm more optimistic today about crypto's future than I was even when I joined the firm [soon after it launched]. And I was very optimistic then.

So while this has been a difficult year for crypto, it's not the first difficult year for crypto. I'm extremely excited about what it's going to do to reshape how finance works, how money works, how technology and the digital world work.

I'm more excited today about crypto than I've been at any point.

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